HI RAINBOW, MR. M !!!! HE SEEMS LIKE THE QUITE NICE ON BUT BELIEVE ME HE IS NOT .... HE HAS DONE NOTHING BUT PLAYED ME BIG TIME AND I WAS THE IDIOT TO BELIEVE HE WAS A NICE GUY .... HE LIES AND LIES AND LIES .... IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE US DATE M OR ABDOUL AND SEE HOW THEY WILL TREAT YOU BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY DO ... WE ARE NOT ON THIS SITE BECAUSE THEY TREATED US WELL WE ARE HERE TO LET OTHER WOMAN KNOW SO THE HURT AND PAIN THEY HAVE CAUSED ME/US WILL HOPEFULLY NOT HAPPEN TO THEM ... I HAVE BEEN READING AND READING THIS ABOUT THEM BEING NICE GUYS YES THEY ARE WHEN YOU GUEST THERE BECAUSE THAT'S THERE JOB!!! BUT WHEN YOU TURN YOUR BACK OR YOU DATE THEM ITS A WHOLE OTHER GAME ... AND IT MAKES ME ANGRY WHEN PEOPLE DEFEND THEM WHEN THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO US ... AND TRUST ME I AM NOT STUPID OR NAIVE I JUST THOUGHT HE ACTUALLY WAS WORTH MY TIME ....
LOL I can copy and paste too Hello One Love, welcome here! You can use normal letters because when you're using caplocks, than it means you're shouting at us Besides that it's not easy to read that way Can you tell us something more about how you get involved with him, how long do you know eachother, how many times did you meet and what happened?
I cannot agree more about your point Browning , the mental trauma, the heartache and physical hurt are not to be undersetimated!This is amazing how some tourists or guests who are not aware of bezness are not taking it enough into account ... and yes the rats do feign friendship as love ...it cannot be called friendship ,it's something else very weird sometimes coming from the guests investing animators with powers or treating them as they were part of their everyday life or if they were popstars! that's idealization ...to me this not fiendship and you hear very well from animators that they don't care about guests and it's quite acceptable ,their job is not to make friends, just to be kind and helpful ; nevertheless, i guess as always one or two real friendship stories can happen...
So true Amber, some of these guys feel as if they are popstars, and yes very weird, because it's not just women that fall for their lies, it's men and women with families, i can tell you so many conversations i overheard sitting by the pool! Really the guests were in my opinion completely unaware of the fake friendships they would encounter. I am sure some Europeans could see it (maybe?) and really just took it all as holiday fun. I know many were fooled, I think some of the European men realised it so ok... a few pounds or euros misdirected maybe, but the women completely alone, not knowing, never heard about this "beznesss", I know is fact, I never did for 1 moment realise any of this my first visit to Tunisia.
While I agree that this may be the case for many, as I have said on other threads I have many friends in tunisia and have had these friendships for many years and they do not like the beezness and in fact left their jobs in animation because of the reputation animation teams had gained, as DZ will agree I have an "adoptive" family in tunisia who I am very fond of and never ask me to bring over anything unless they have agreed to pay for it when I get there, they hate the way rats behave but do not want "tarred" with the same brush, they are decent hard working people who respect visitors, shame that many others do not have the same ethics
Hi Guys, I just wanted to say that I am only passing judgement on the 2 guys named as I have experience it all first hand of what these to guys are up to. I will ever pass judgement on someone i don't know and i do not tarred people with the same brush that's not why I am on here. I am purely here to help other woman not to make the same mistake with these 2 guys named and to not have the hurt and pain i had. When i met M i thought he was a lovely guy he told me stories which moved me and made me want to help him. I believe there is good and bad everywhere but what is wrong in this case is that people actually go on holiday to chill out and recharge our batteries and it upsets me that all they could think about is to lie to us and take people for a ride!! I do not know how these guys sleep at night knowing what they are doing ...
To be fair if all you are doing is going to recharge batteries and relax, there shouldnt be a problem! The stories etc would then be taken with a pinch of salt! Its when the flattery is taken seriously the problems begin. Alot see things through rose tinted glasses and get carried away with the dream. Sure they are not all the same (some of us on here are living proof that they are not as we are in happy marriages) and nobody should ever tar them all with the same brush. I could tell you of many local men that shouldnt be touched with a barge pole!!! Its not only tunes who con!!
Sad to say that M is still doing the same, I wish I'd looked at this site before I went. I was with him last week. I think I got away lucky though because he just gave me a lovely smile and said goodbye when I left and I didn't give him my contact details.
You're telling me! I'm sure I would have been had (although he wouldn't have had much luck financially!!) because he is a real smoothy. Shame really, spoils a lovely holiday memory!
better safe than sorry! he could have spoiled months or years of your life! ruin your health and make you have a bad heartache! Don't forget to tell others ,i mean girlfriends around you in england and the ones you were with on holidays ,they might be in some rats"hands"too?
I am so sorry Barbara that u had to find out here because that's what happened to me.... but i am glad i did find out ! Did he tell u any stories? Because he did with me hut only for some financial gain! He is very smooth and u think he is the nice quite one but actually he is the worse!! Hope u ok xx
Well that's what's strange One Love, and why I am surprised to see him on here, because he didn't feed me any stories! He told me about his history and his hopes for the future (which include not renewing his contract at the Bellevue Park). We just had really good fun, and when he took me out he paid. LOL. Do you think I should be offended??!! I'm not too upset because it was just a holiday thing and I had nothing invested in him and no plans to stay in touch.
Well I think you just had a nice healthy holiday romance, nothing to be offended about at all. This should be the rule rather than the exception - besides, long distance relationships are tiring, heartbreaking, expensive and even sometimes boring, living only for the next visit lol
Also would you be ready and willing to totally alter the course of your life, I was lucky in many, many ways but do still wonder, what if? natural enough I suppose but you do have to accept having no regrets.
Hi Barbara, I had the same when i met him he told me last year that he wouldn't extend his contract! He wanted to start a fmaily and get married! but since than i have found out that he actually has a wife. He started all his games when i got back home wanting money! And it was very funny that sometimes his phone was off for 1 or 2 weeks at a time which he had excusses for like it got stolen!! or someone had pushed him in the pool!! If all u wanted was some holiday romance than there was no harm done but i actually fall for him big time but only becasue he told me told me how much he wanted to be with me but he crushed and hurt me badly. When i look back know all he told me was lies and its my own fault as i couldn't see it.
Hi One Love, I am so sorry that you got hurt, what a horrible thing to happen. I think he has a wife and son somewhere in the UK and a girlfriend in Belgium (although I wouldn't be surprised if he's scamming her). What a Rat. I had no intention of keeping anything going with him, a long distance relationship is not for me and I was quite realistic about it. I just enjoyed myself while I was there and forgot about him when I got on the plane, until a friend (female, UK!) that I met at the Bellevue Park pointed me here. I'm sad to see Mamadou and Abdoul here, because I've seen them in action and they come across as such nice guys. I feel terrible that there are other girls there now probably falling for their charms and about to be hurt. I wonder if we would get away with stringing a big banner across the front of the hotel!!
Hi Barbara, Thank you but don't be sorry it's my own stupid fault for believing in him and wanting to help him as he wanted to leave bellevue park and come and be with me. You did the right thing and forgot about him when you got on that plane but i didn't have the power to do that becasue it was already to late for me as he got me right where he wanted me. That's what i meant before when you meet them you would never think that they would be anything than nice but i learned it the hard way that they are not they are just very good at what they do. I was shocked like you when i was pointed at this site and when i enetered his name i was so hoping for nothing to come up but it did! But in some ways it give me a bit of comfort to know i was not the only person so stupid to believe me. A big banner lol i would love that just so they would not ever be able to do this to another woman what he did to me ever again. One thing is for sure i will never go back to the bellevue park again and it's a shame as i like the hotel but i am not sure what i would do to him if ever saw him again llooll
Hi I too have had recent dealings with 'M', an animator working at the Bellevue Park hotel. I'm sorry to read about the hurt and upset he has caused - I've had a lucky escape but I wanted to share with you my limited experience with him. I accidentally found this site and what a great job you ladies are doing. Incidentally the only reason I found the site is because I searched 'Bellevue Park hotel' and it led me to the thread 'Bellevue Park there is a big rat' - so using the hotel name and/or the name of the person in the thread heading for internet search purposes is so important. I already had suspicions about him but after reading the other comments and under the thread 'Abdoul bellevue park' (and he may be mentioned on the other European rat forum sites) there is no doubt in my mind that he is a bad person and has no shame. For women reading this who think they are 'his girl', be warned and be very cautious. Whilst I was at the hotel he was complaining about his German ex-girlfriend. He seemed to tell most of the hotel guests about it to gain sympathy! When I asked him when was the last time he had a girlfriend (prior to the German girlfriend) he told me it was last summer and was quick to tell me he wasn't a gigolo! I met him one day at the hotel when he came over and we chatted and the next day he asked if I'd like to go for a drink with him. We went a couple of times to the local bar (he told me I was the first girl he'd taken there - I didn't believe it at the time either!). He told me he had visited many places in Europe (I wonder how?) but not the UK. He too paid but as One Love mentioned, any financial requests would have been asked later, when you're more emotionally involved with him. He did talk about himself a lot, his struggles etc and on the last evening he invited me to his room but I declined his 'advances'. He asked me to go back to see him and rather than keeping it to just a little holiday thing we exchanged numbers and for the next few days his texts consisted only of telling me that I was the woman for him, he missed me, to trust him, I'm a good person etc. I wasn't emotionally involved with him so I was unaffected by the texts. It wasn't long after I returned from my holiday that I discovered this forum. It certainly was a shock to read about someone you thought of differently and I confronted him on the phone about it but, unsurprisingly, he denied everything; didn't know these women; didn't have a wife etc. I must have ruined his rotten plan for me as I haven't heard from him since and if he wasn't aware of this forum before, he does now. I can see now that this type of person has no respect for themselves or others. It's a numbers game for them - go through enough 'girlfriends' and sometimes your lucky number/s comes up, whether it be for sex, cash, gifts and/or visa. Their behaviour is inexcusable, regardless of their nationality and culture. He too mentioned to me that he has about 1 - 2 years remaining of his hotel contract and he talked of going to another country (he mentioned USA and Brazil). During hotel working hours he was entertaining (that's his job) but underneath the veneer lays cunning and ugliness, heartlessly using women for his own gains. Personally, if I was friends with such a person and I knew of their 'reasons', attitude and methods, I couldn't associate myself with them. They are vultures, targeting, picking up, dropping, with neither compassion or responsibility. They have no shame. I can understand why women fall for this type of person as they are smooth operators. As many have commented, he seemed believable and outwardly appeared a normal good guy. It's a good tactic and cunningly, once you've fallen for him, have feelings for him, the real manipulation and psychological games start, for his own selfish purposes. I wonder how many women have innocently been used until they realise it too late and either haven't discovered this site or don't feel comfortable to write on this forum about their experience. Finally, this is happening at a reputable hotel chain, by staff targeting hotel guests. I wonder if the hotel management are aware of what is going on in their hotel or if they are ignoring it, certainly head office and the tour operators using these hotels should take action as reading this forum and other countries forums, this is going on in the same chain hotels elsewhere within Tunisia and other countries (and perhaps also putting a warning on well known holiday review sites (e.g. Tripadvisor) with a link to this forum / thread). Perhaps the hotels and tour operators are aware of the 'business' and ignore it but potentially it could damage both their reputation and brand image.
Bonsoir! Je viens de lire tous vos messages et j aimerais avoir une vraie confirmation. Est ce bien de Mamadou, animateur (noir) au riu belle vue park à kantaoui que vous parlez ? Je demande ça parce que mon amie est sa copine depuis bientôt 2 ans...Merci pour elle!
lol ok je le mets en anglais Good evening! I have just read all your messages and j would like to have the real confirmation. Is it well Mamadou, presenter(driving force) (black) in the riu beautiful park view(sight) in kantaoui about which you speak? I ask for that because my friend is her friend for soon 2 years... Thank you for her!
La photo de M en question est au tout début de cette discussion...et oui il faut s 'exprimer ici en anglais pour avoir de bonnes informations...
Can i ask please, why if you are fully aware of his wife and child you would embark on any kind of ride with him?? Sisterhood at its best huh?
