crazy, you know I have a special regard for your religion but I have devout friends who do wish us Happy Birthday and Christmas and help us celebrate Birthdays. I do not consider these friends any less devout than you and am sure they do not consider themselves any less either. Two friends are very learned indeed with their religion. The thing that concerns me is refering back to the Bible, Spare the rod and spoil the child, and Honour and OBEY your husband as being part of the marriage vows. Trouble occurs worldwide when people stick so closely to THEIR interpretation of the word and will have it no other way. Things have evolved and that is what some modernistic Muslims want for their religion. To move it forward so that it attracts many more learned non Muslims around the world. My devout Tunisian friend always says look at the person first, do they do good? If so they will be at one with the God.
Valentines day is just harmless fun, thats all , nothing else and i am sure if the big man (if he exists) probably is sitting on his golden throne thinking "oh well at least one day a year n love isnae bad" am sure he isnt getting out his big book of sin and writing peoples names in it for the day of judgement And for myself am sure i have a lot more to worry about when the day of revelation comes than a few valentine cards or gifts hahahahaha but am givin away ma sins , thats between me and the big man ora best the hairy one
Its sinful because its nothing to do with Islam. Its not on our calander. By celebrating anothers festival it is a sin. Simple as that.
Thank you we all have different views and while many do not agree with me or me with them, we all have to agree to disagree
You can wish someone happy birthday or happy holiday for christmas - you cant celebrate them. Its not a problem having a birthday cake with kids etc - it is to have a big party and make a big celebration for it. There is a difference. My husband is the head of our house - although if i feel he is wrong about something I do say so. Islam is what it is - you cannot pick and choose which bits you want to follow and which bits you dont. I dont think Islam has a problem attracking people - its the fastest growing religion.
Myself and husband are not kids crazypink. I respect that when reverted or converted to Christianity it helps your comprehension initially to go by the book but my old mentor and Minister years ago in, an old Oxford Don also appeased me by telling me that as a young man he qualified his beliefs by acknowledging that he was a Creationist Evolutionary and any questions I may have could never be as great !! Have you read any of the teachings of any of the English women who became great Muslim teachers and writers? you remember two years ago a woman led Friday prayers etc in Oxford. The first in the UK to do so. Things are changing in many ways no matter who goes along with it! Your husband is head of your house?
He is and im happy with that. Im not a weak woman by any means. I follow my religion to the best of my ability. Im not telling anyone what to do - or that i know more lol. Im quite new to this and im learning all the time.
haha I swear I didn't - my good friend told me it, it illustrates perfectly what your Tunisian friends have said to you about seeing the good in people above all else. Allah forgave a prostitute of her sins because she gave water to a dying dog Allah's Apostle said, "A prostitute was forgiven by Allah, because, passing by a panting dog near a well and seeing that the dog was about to die of thirst, she took off her shoe, and tying it with her head-cover she drew out some water for it. So, Allah forgave her because of that." Volume 4, Book 54, Number 538, Narrated Abu Huraira. As for Islam being the fastest growing religion, I think it is very clear that a high proportion of those 'recruited' are actually enemies of Islam in terms of the way in which they interpret the teachings and promote hatred and intolerance.
Lol it means what it says. If he told me he didnt want me to do something or go somewhere then i wouldnt do that. But part of being in a respectful relationship means that we talk about things for the biggest part. If he felt strongly about something then his decision would be the one we go with.
I think a mark of a good marriage is that you talk things through and come to mutual agreements/decisions and most successful and healthy relationships practice just that. I think what you describe is all well and good in a marriage where the man is respectful, rational and loving but we hear so many stories where muslim women are abused in the belief that God has proclaimed a man (father, husband, uncle, brother etc.) as being the 'head' and not to be questioned, irrespective of what he does. This I guess is what makes me uncomfortable about it - because all women know that we just like to let men think that they are the ones who have made the decisions when, usually, we have influenced them without them being aware of it
Yes I vaguely remember the story just in my version she is not called by the word prostitute. Have to agree with your thoughts and yes the question my friend gets asked the most by less devout Muslims is will the God forgive them all of their sins and the reply they get is of course but to act quickly and do good including spreading goodwill.
I always say my FIL is head of the house - but my MIL is the one who makes things happen As women we have a more gentle appraoch to things.
I respect my husband and consider what he says but surely in some instances I know for sure I am better equipped than him to make decisions at which point he goes along with me. Sharing responsibility and making best use of each others talents and qualities surely is what makes us responsible caring adults.
I agree with this - some decisions are best made by the person with greater experience, knowledge, interest in that area etc. which could be either partner. I have heard of instances where husbands forbid their wives to cut their hair (as opposed to just telling them that they prefer it long) and I just find it very difficult to stomach.
This is definitely the case in Tunisia as far as I have seen...here's hoping this doesn't change anytime soon
Seen some very strong women in households in Tunisia one in her mid 80`s still runs her own farm and house, I wouldn`t cross her ! she is lovely all the same
I apologise for saying you brought things up as it was not you Tunisiansun - please accept my apologises. As for the rest, I apologise for making sweeping statements too - I was just a bit fed up. I retract them humbly. And your second part of this post is VERY true too. I was stupid but never again and its true, some people never forget. Anyway Tunisiansun, I'm sorry. And Tigerlil, of course I am still all about the love and giving people a second chance - can't help who I am I'm afraid Sorry for rattling cages as thats not me Smiley x
Crazypink, I didn't mean to just copy your opinion - I am not good with words and I am not confident enough to acticulate Islam in the way you do and you do do it very well. I hope you don't think badly of me when I have echoed your words but for me, you summed it up very well. I have respect for you in the way you explain things and you help me put the words correctly in my head. Thank you for that crazypink, Smiley x
