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A question regarding your review of Soviva Resort
Regarding: Port El Kantaoui: Soviva Resort:
From: AngryFather2013

My 15 yo Daughter was raped at this hotel in August by one Marwan Rahali a member of staff there. As I understand it he was released from custody as soon as we left the country and went straight back to his job in the hotel.I have been trying to warn people about this but Trip Advisor keep refusing to post my comments, its only a matter of time before he does it again and Thomas Cook are worse than hopeless on this matter as it may ruin their profits.
New to the Rat forum so unsure if I have posted this in the correct place but I got this message when I posted my review about the Soviva resort and the unwelcome attention my daughter received there.
 
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A question regarding your review of Soviva Resort
Regarding: Port El Kantaoui: Soviva Resort:
From: AngryFather2013
My 15 yo Daughter was raped at this hotel in August by one Marwan Rahali a member of staff there. As I understand it he was released from custody as soon as we left the country and went straight back to his job in the hotel.I have been trying to warn people about this but Trip Advisor keep refusing to post my comments, its only a matter of time before he does it again and Thomas Cook are worse than hopeless on this matter as it may ruin their profits.
New to the Rat forum so unsure if I have posted this in the correct place but I got this message when I posted my review about the Soviva resort and the unwelcome attention my daughter received there.
omg, thats really terrible jcc. i am 16,, love to your daughter from me!! xx
 
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It wasn't my daughter, although we saw plenty of rat's while there, the message was sent to me via trip advisor
 
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Horrible isn't it, While at Soviva we saw a 15 year old girl having sex with one of the animation in the nightclub there, another young girl was attacked, my daughter had a note delivered to our room via the maid from a man asing to meet her outside the hotel gates, and another young girl, 17 is now married with a baby to one of the animation that were there.... I have read alot of posts in here and agree fully when people say the tour operators should warn of this behaviour, we are lucky to have Tunisian friends that warned us before we went what Tunisian men and Animation can be like
 

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I have just messaged him with a link to come here for advice/support, reading through the link you posted now
 
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Hi Newbie here. Many thanks to Jcc for taking my pm on trip advisor seriously.
As previously posted my 15 year old Daughter was brutally raped by a waiter at the hotel that she was staying at with my ex-wife, he followed her to her room and forced his way in then raped her in a sadistic violent way which has left her suicidal and feeling worthless.
Aside from the obvious upset to us as a family I am as my tag suggests really angry that I cannot get any justice from the ahem legal system over there. She is only a tourist so we will hold him until they go home.
They were treated really badly by thomas cook and the hotel, and I find out that upon his release he was working again at the same place.
I would love to go to the papers with this but I fear for the anonymity of my daughter. We are not loaded with money so pursuing it privately is out of the question (when I approached Thomas Cook for help we were offered £600 in compensation as long as we signed a disclaimer waiving my daughters rights to further pursuing this at a later date) As you can imagine I was furious at this corporate attempt to barter with her feelings.
I have been trying to post warnings for nearly a year on different sites such as Trip Advisor etc but cannot get past the moderators who say it is inappropriate content but thanks to Jcc I have found you guys who appear to have the forum I was looking for.
His name is Marwan Rahali he is early 20s and was working at Port El Kantaoui in Soviva resort

 
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Hi Newbie here. Many thanks to Jcc for taking my pm on trip advisor seriously.
As previously posted my 15 year old Daughter was brutally raped by a waiter at the hotel that she was staying at with my ex-wife, he followed her to her room and forced his way in then raped her in a sadistic violent way which has left her suicidal and feeling worthless.
Aside from the obvious upset to us as a family I am as my tag suggests really angry that I cannot get any justice from the ahem legal system over there. She is only a tourist so we will hold him until they go home.
They were treated really badly by thomas cook and the hotel, and I find out that upon his release he was working again at the same place.
I would love to go to the papers with this but I fear for the anonymity of my daughter. We are not loaded with money so pursuing it privately is out of the question (when I approached Thomas Cook for help we were offered £600 in compensation as long as we signed a disclaimer waiving my daughters rights to further pursuing this at a later date) As you can imagine I was furious at this corporate attempt to barter with her feelings.
I have been trying to post warnings for nearly a year on different sites such as Trip Advisor etc but cannot get past the moderators who say it is inappropriate content but thanks to Jcc I have found you guys who appear to have the forum I was looking for.
His name is Marwan Rahali he is early 20s and was working at Port El Kantaoui in Soviva resort


Hi Angry Dad, and welcome!

I'm so sorry for what happened with your daughter, it's absolutely shocking me! I'm sending both of you very-very big virtual hugs, and I wish her quick healing! This man's place would be in prison until the end of his life, that would be the minimum punishment!! :mad:

I wouldn't have liked your post, because it's horrible what happened with your daughter, the only reason because I have liked that, because I'm glad that you've found this site, and you've come here and posted him to warn others.

Could you please put his picture please into the gallery with the copy of the link to this thread?

I'm not English, but I have read many bad things here about Thomas Cook. I wonder why English people yet like that agency?
 
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fainna

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Hi Newbie here. Many thanks to Jcc for taking my pm on trip advisor seriously.
As previously posted my 15 year old Daughter was brutally raped by a waiter at the hotel that she was staying at with my ex-wife, he followed her to her room and forced his way in then raped her in a sadistic violent way which has left her suicidal and feeling worthless.
Aside from the obvious upset to us as a family I am as my tag suggests really angry that I cannot get any justice from the ahem legal system over there. She is only a tourist so we will hold him until they go home.
They were treated really badly by thomas cook and the hotel, and I find out that upon his release he was working again at the same place.
I would love to go to the papers with this but I fear for the anonymity of my daughter. We are not loaded with money so pursuing it privately is out of the question (when I approached Thomas Cook for help we were offered £600 in compensation as long as we signed a disclaimer waiving my daughters rights to further pursuing this at a later date) As you can imagine I was furious at this corporate attempt to barter with her feelings.
I have been trying to post warnings for nearly a year on different sites such as Trip Advisor etc but cannot get past the moderators who say it is inappropriate content but thanks to Jcc I have found you guys who appear to have the forum I was looking for.
His name is Marwan Rahali he is early 20s and was working at Port El Kantaoui in Soviva resort

Hi Newbie here. Many thanks to Jcc for taking my pm on trip advisor seriously.
As previously posted my 15 year old Daughter was brutally raped by a waiter at the hotel that she was staying at with my ex-wife, he followed her to her room and forced his way in then raped her in a sadistic violent way which has left her suicidal and feeling worthless.
Aside from the obvious upset to us as a family I am as my tag suggests really angry that I cannot get any justice from the ahem legal system over there. She is only a tourist so we will hold him until they go home.
They were treated really badly by thomas cook and the hotel, and I find out that upon his release he was working again at the same place.
I would love to go to the papers with this but I fear for the anonymity of my daughter. We are not loaded with money so pursuing it privately is out of the question (when I approached Thomas Cook for help we were offered £600 in compensation as long as we signed a disclaimer waiving my daughters rights to further pursuing this at a later date) As you can imagine I was furious at this corporate attempt to barter with her feelings.
I have been trying to post warnings for nearly a year on different sites such as Trip Advisor etc but cannot get past the moderators who say it is inappropriate content but thanks to Jcc I have found you guys who appear to have the forum I was looking for.
His name is Marwan Rahali he is early 20s and was working at Port El Kantaoui in Soviva resort

hi angry dad, i am so so sorry for what happened to your daughter!!! please give her my love!, THOMAS CROOK .... is a better name for them!!! xxxxx
 
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When I first went to Tunisia I went with Thomas cook and I was a little concerned about safety for women on their own. I asked the rep about this and was told that Tunisia is safer than any European country because of the punishment they receive if they commit a crime!!
 

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Hi Newbie here. Many thanks to Jcc for taking my pm on trip advisor seriously.
As previously posted my 15 year old Daughter was brutally raped by a waiter at the hotel that she was staying at with my ex-wife, he followed her to her room and forced his way in then raped her in a sadistic violent way which has left her suicidal and feeling worthless.
Aside from the obvious upset to us as a family I am as my tag suggests really angry that I cannot get any justice from the ahem legal system over there. She is only a tourist so we will hold him until they go home.
They were treated really badly by thomas cook and the hotel, and I find out that upon his release he was working again at the same place.
I would love to go to the papers with this but I fear for the anonymity of my daughter. We are not loaded with money so pursuing it privately is out of the question (when I approached Thomas Cook for help we were offered £600 in compensation as long as we signed a disclaimer waiving my daughters rights to further pursuing this at a later date) As you can imagine I was furious at this corporate attempt to barter with her feelings.
I have been trying to post warnings for nearly a year on different sites such as Trip Advisor etc but cannot get past the moderators who say it is inappropriate content but thanks to Jcc I have found you guys who appear to have the forum I was looking for.
His name is Marwan Rahali he is early 20s and was working at Port El Kantaoui in Soviva resort
Hi Angry Dad, this is so sad :Cry: but I am please that you've found this forum and you can now warn everyone. Please put his picture in the Gallery with the heading of his name and the name of the hotel so that when people google they will hopefully find it.

There is also a facebook page that has been set up about the phenicia Hotel in Hammamet where this also happened, warning people about what happened and showing the reviews that 'Trip Advisor' have removed https://www.facebook.com/phenicia.hotel.tunisia.warning?fref=ts I don't know if you can do something like that as well ?

Was this reported to the police when your wife and daughter returned to England? I don't know if they can do anything but I have read of incidents when they have got involved in crimes against British people in other countries.

Please send love to your daughter and I hope she will recover from this x

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Angry Dad, I have no words to describe what I felt while reading the story of your daughter!!!!
THOMAS COOK should be brought to justice as well for PROTECTING CRIMINALS IN TUNISIA!!!!
I think that taking this story to the papers (your daugter staying anonymous, as she is minor) could be the start of a big campaign and maybe get you the lawyer you certainly need... Maybe if several victims (there is another victim of rape in a tunisian hotel on here) could gather and defend their rights together?
On the other hand, would this be in the interest of your daughter? How is she doing actually? Does she have any psychological follow up?
Wish you both all the best!
 
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marilyna

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Hi Newbie here. Many thanks to Jcc for taking my pm on trip advisor seriously.
As previously posted my 15 year old Daughter was brutally raped by a waiter at the hotel that she was staying at with my ex-wife, he followed her to her room and forced his way in then raped her in a sadistic violent way which has left her suicidal and feeling worthless.
Aside from the obvious upset to us as a family I am as my tag suggests really angry that I cannot get any justice from the ahem legal system over there. She is only a tourist so we will hold him until they go home.
They were treated really badly by thomas cook and the hotel, and I find out that upon his release he was working again at the same place.
I would love to go to the papers with this but I fear for the anonymity of my daughter. We are not loaded with money so pursuing it privately is out of the question (when I approached Thomas Cook for help we were offered £600 in compensation as long as we signed a disclaimer waiving my daughters rights to further pursuing this at a later date) As you can imagine I was furious at this corporate attempt to barter with her feelings.
I have been trying to post warnings for nearly a year on different sites such as Trip Advisor etc but cannot get past the moderators who say it is inappropriate content but thanks to Jcc I have found you guys who appear to have the forum I was looking for.
His name is Marwan Rahali he is early 20s and was working at Port El Kantaoui in Soviva resort

Welcome to TLR AngryDad,

I can't even begin to imagine what you are feeling with regard to what happened to your daughter. I feel sick thinking about it. I hope and pray that you get some justice. I know years ago someone started a viral campaign against Thomas cook, and it picked up so much interest, that at one point when you Googled Thomas cook, this man's Blog page came up first before Thomas cook. In the end Thomas cook were forced to respond to him, and answer his complaints. I find it disgusting that they are offering you a pittance to keep silent.
 

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Hi Newbie here. Many thanks to Jcc for taking my pm on trip advisor seriously.
As previously posted my 15 year old Daughter was brutally raped by a waiter at the hotel that she was staying at with my ex-wife, he followed her to her room and forced his way in then raped her in a sadistic violent way which has left her suicidal and feeling worthless.
Aside from the obvious upset to us as a family I am as my tag suggests really angry that I cannot get any justice from the ahem legal system over there. She is only a tourist so we will hold him until they go home.
They were treated really badly by thomas cook and the hotel, and I find out that upon his release he was working again at the same place.
I would love to go to the papers with this but I fear for the anonymity of my daughter. We are not loaded with money so pursuing it privately is out of the question (when I approached Thomas Cook for help we were offered £600 in compensation as long as we signed a disclaimer waiving my daughters rights to further pursuing this at a later date) As you can imagine I was furious at this corporate attempt to barter with her feelings.
I have been trying to post warnings for nearly a year on different sites such as Trip Advisor etc but cannot get past the moderators who say it is inappropriate content but thanks to Jcc I have found you guys who appear to have the forum I was looking for.
His name is Marwan Rahali he is early 20s and was working at Port El Kantaoui in Soviva resort


Hi angry dad, have pm'd you
 
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Hi Angry Dad, this is so sad :Cry: but I am please that you've found this forum and you can now warn everyone. Please put his picture in the Gallery with the heading of his name and the name of the hotel so that when people google they will hopefully find it.

There is also a facebook page that has been set up about the phenicia Hotel in Hammamet where this also happened, warning people about what happened and showing the reviews that 'Trip Advisor' have removed https://www.facebook.com/phenicia.hotel.tunisia.warning?fref=ts I don't know if you can do something like that as well ?

Was this reported to the police when your wife and daughter returned to England? I don't know if they can do anything but I have read of incidents when they have got involved in crimes against British people in other countries.

Please send love to your daughter and I hope she will recover from this x

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Angry Dad, have you tried to contact to your Embassy and tell them what has happened? In my country we are always adviced that firstly contact to our Embassy and they will help if we are in trouble, or if some crime happens. And usually they really help to those who are in trouble.

As far as I am concerned after the recently published stupid newspaper articles about marriages with Tunisian men I'm not sure that I would go to a newspaper, but it's not a bad idea. But I would go to a TV channel. For example to a news program/signal. (I don't know the right word for it in English, I hope you understand....) There's no need that they show you and your daughter personally, but they can tell her case as a warning to others, and they can show and make an interview with Tomas Cook. At least in my country it works well. We have seen some crime stories about Tunisian men with European girls in TV signal, and it was effective to warn future tourists.
 
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I am genuinely overwhelmed by all of your kind messages, Thank you all so much.
to answer some of the questions put to me...
1. She is starting to live her life again after months of being in a very dark place, she is petrified of men except for myself , her brother and a friend of mine who does nothing but mock and annoy her (jokingly of course)
2. We never went to the police over here as it would be too upsetting for her. The police in Sousse were animals, even refusing to leave the room when she was being examined by a doctor in the hospital, and when she was giving her statement in the police station they considerately decided to bring him into the room.
3. She started seeing counsellors from CRISIS but stopped after one of them suggested that if she feels the need to self harm to do it where she cant see the results such as on her back...Really that was said, I was there.
4. I have no faith that the papers would not publish mine or her mothers name which would devastate her if anyone found out, I am in constant fear of someone finding out and putting it on facebook. You know how cruel kids can be to each other.
5. Its nearly a year on now and she has stopped self harming now and I am fairly sure that she is no longer thinking about suicide although when she has what we call her quiet periods I do wonder what she is thinking.
Again thanks for your kind words and if you are going to Tunisia please please be careful and watch your kids/friends like a hawk.
 

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Oh my God this is horrific! Not only what happened to your baby, they always remain out babies! But the treatment after! You should put a complaint into CRISIS! What the hell are they on!? Your poor poor daughter, after initially thinking I was unlucky there I now know I would never ever go back! Don't let this rest Angry Dad and you have all of us and our experiences behind you! Speak to Fern as she went through the same.

These men are animals!!

I wish you and your daughter all the best

Xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 

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I also think that going to the press (your daughter is anonymous) may help! I went to the press about my friend and although never printed it shook the embassy enough to actually do something!

I would most definitely make a complaint to crisis!
 

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Hi Angry Dad..

I am so sorry to read your story and what has happened to your daughter....

I have heard all the terrible stories re the Tunisian police.... I have no doubt her experience with them would of been horrendous....they are bullies..

Now we have the knowledge of two rapes committed by staff in Tunisian hotels..and BOTH owned by Thomas Cook.....This must be dealt with..it is imperative...

Thomas Cook has to be held to account...

Go to see your MP...He/she has a duty to their constituents...They can contact relevant authorities on your behalf....

Inform the British Embassy ....name and shame that man everywhere you can and Thomas Cook...

There has been reccomendations of a good lawyer in Tunisia..im not sure if you feel this is an option?

Did your ex wife have travel insurance? If so contact them and see if there is anything they can do....maybe you had legal cover inc? It is worth checking...

These are a few steps you can take for now.....Make sure Thomas Cook realise that you will NOT let this matter go unpunished....we are talikng about a child being raped here....!!! They can not spout the usual crap that she had been out drinking etc with them..as im sure she didnt do that...I hope not...

Who was sharing the room with her?

Where was her mother?

Im asking you these questions as it is the kind of things they will ask you...

Angry Dad...you will find support here..let us know how you get on....I am sure through these channels you will find a solution..

Last resort if you can do nothing legally get a few burly mates together, go on a trip, find the scum bag and rearrange his features and shove his penis up his arse..
 
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I am genuinely overwhelmed by all of your kind messages, Thank you all so much.
to answer some of the questions put to me...
1. She is starting to live her life again after months of being in a very dark place, she is petrified of men except for myself , her brother and a friend of mine who does nothing but mock and annoy her (jokingly of course)
2. We never went to the police over here as it would be too upsetting for her. The police in Sousse were animals, even refusing to leave the room when she was being examined by a doctor in the hospital, and when she was giving her statement in the police station they considerately decided to bring him into the room.
3. She started seeing counsellors from CRISIS but stopped after one of them suggested that if she feels the need to self harm to do it where she cant see the results such as on her back...Really that was said, I was there.
4. I have no faith that the papers would not publish mine or her mothers name which would devastate her if anyone found out, I am in constant fear of someone finding out and putting it on facebook. You know how cruel kids can be to each other.
5. Its nearly a year on now and she has stopped self harming now and I am fairly sure that she is no longer thinking about suicide although when she has what we call her quiet periods I do wonder what she is thinking.
Again thanks for your kind words and if you are going to Tunisia please please be careful and watch your kids/friends like a hawk.
AngryDad,

As MH007 has suggested, please make a complaint against those Counsellors at CRISIS. Do you have any idea what Professional body they are registered with?

You can also request any notes that were made by these Counsellors while your daughter was having sessions with them, and they have to provide them. It would be interesting to see if they recorded that your daughter could self harm, but in places that can't be seen!

The response that was made is irresponsible, unprofessional and in breach of ethical codes. They have a duty of care, and in no way should encourage clients to harm themselves.

Were they Qualified counsellors or counsellors in training?

This definitely needs to be followed up, and a professional body will pick it up.
 
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Angry Dad, I'm glad you got my Pm and made your way over here, I'm sure you'll get some sound advive and support from members and I truly wish your daughter find's some peace and in time can start to recover from her ordeal.
 

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Everybody else has covered exactly what I'd like to say. I just wanted to post a comment so you know that there is a lot of support here, and whilst nothing can change what has happened, you will get invaluable advice from the lovely members here, and hopefully some form of justice!
 
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