Africans in England go back to 13th century

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  1. Ben

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    Well.. Look here :



    A 13th century skeleton unearthed on the grounds of a friary may be the earliest physical evidence that Africans lived in England in medieval times, a team of researchers said Sunday.
    Forensics experts at the University of Dundee Scotland say that the bones most likely belonged to a man from modern-day Tunisia who spent about a decade living in England before he died.
    "I believe that this is the first physical evidence of Africans in medieval England," said Jim Bolton, a historian at Queen Mary, University of London who wasn't involved in the discovery.
    "Finding a skeleton like this is of major interest," he said.
    The man - who appears to have died of a spinal abscess - was identified as African by studying his skeleton and the historical record of the friary where he was buried.
    "It's not just the skin tone, it's a question of bone structure," said Xanthe Mallett, an expert at the Center for Anatomy and Human Identification in Dundee. She said the size of the nasal bone or the shape of the orbits differed depending on whether skeletons were European or African.
    "You can have an idea of where somebody is from by looking at their skeletal features," she said.
    Researchers were able to pin the man to Tunisia using isotope analysis, a technique which looks at the mix of elements that build up in a person's teeth, bones or other tissues. Since people from different areas tend to accumulate such elements in different ways, analysis of their remains can sometimes pinpoint where they grew up, where they lived or even their diet.
    "Each area has a different isotopic signature," she said.
    It's not clear how the man would have made his way from Tunisia to Ipswich, the southeast England town where his skeleton was unearthed in the 1990s. The BBC's "History Cold Case" program, which is publicizing the finding, suggested that he may have been brought back during the Crusades, although Mallett and Bolton both hypothesized he could have conceivably come through Spain, parts of which were then under Muslim rule.
    His burial on consecrated ground suggests that not only must he have converted to Christianity, but he may also have gone on to become a respected member of society.
    "He would have had to been of some note to be buried in the friary," Mallett said.
    Bolton said it was extremely difficult to find evidence of any Africans in England between the fall of the Roman Empire and the Age of Exploration. He added that the find illustrated that there was still a lot to learn about how often or widely people traveled - either within England, Europe, or the wider world - during that period.
    "We don't know much about the migration of ordinary people," he said.
     
  2. Ben

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    That could be because he worked in PEK :D

    That could indicate something about his in-laws :D
     
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    alAzima Administrator & Voice of Reason Staff Member

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    He only married her for a visa.
     
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  4. WouldI

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    :rofl:
     
  5. WouldI

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    We should forward our TLR hypothesis to the researchers at the University of Dundee - it could be the breakthrough they need :ben:
     
  6. Ben

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    I would also suggest a DNA analysis to trace his descendant.... but that could trigger a massive deportation proceedings :ben: :ben:
     
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  7. Guess_Who

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    I am not talking about the Legal immigrants Ben!! You know what I am talking about.......
     
  8. Caramel

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    Or seeing that he was a man of means, could trigger a lawsuit led by the legendary Mr Ben Amor to recover inheritance! Ben Amor is famous, so they may be looking for a well-known and trustworthy lawyer (so he says) to represent them.
     
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    Well Robin Hoods mate was an Arab.I think it was Morgan Freeman. Anyway,why should the Arabs or Africans not have travelled to England? They have traced the first person on earth back to a black Ethiopian woman,so they have been around longer than we Caucasians have.
     
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  10. Ben

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    The point is he is TUNISIAN :D I just find that funny :D
     
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  11. WouldI

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    Morgan Freeman was Robin Hood's friend???? :huh:
     
  12. tunisblue

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    in the robin hood movie with kevin costner..
     
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  13. Ben

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    Steve Jobs, (Apple co-founder and CEO) turned out to be Arab too, now why doesn't that surprise me :ben: (geek joke sorry :ben:)
     
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  14. WouldI

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    hahahaahahahahahahhaa - I get her now!! Thought she was being batty!
     
  15. WouldI

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    :huh: yep, geek joke - you said it! :ben:
     
  16. Ben

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    Father is Syrian for real, The joke comes in my surprise :ben:
     
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    bwhahahahhaha :rofl2: Yup sure was!
     
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    Ewww, hahaha, can you imagine the mix of elements they would find in unbrushed rat teeth?!! :D:D
     
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    probably harissa haha :D :D
     
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    Yep, harissa coated maggots and slime!! I didn't think you came on here anymore.....I like your humorous comments :D:D
     
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