Ahmed Rafik - Rat

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  1. Heidi

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    Conversation between Ahmed Rafik and Dalia Hantzi

    xxxx xxxx your dreaming so you need to wake up

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    xxxx xxxx xxxx
    ΝΟ ΜΥ ΛΟΩΕ ΘΡ ΔΡΕΑΜΙΝΓ

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    رفيق احمد
    You be neverrr see this happen

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    xxxx xxx xxxx
    NO MY LOVE UR DREAMING

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    رفيق احمد
    As you say , I am cheap

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    SO WHY U WANT TO STILL PROOVE THIS TO ME?
    ANYWAY
    I AM WAKE UP

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    Stay silence or you be neverrrrrrr see msg from me anymore okk

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    xxxx xxxx xxxx
    IM NOT SLEEPING AT ALL
    DONT THREATING ME AHMED

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    رفيق احمد
    I am ok

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    xxxx xxxx xxxx
    BC I CAN THREAT U HARDER

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    رفيق احمد
    Do what you want

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    xxxx xxxx xxxx
    IM SUFFERING HERE SO DONT JOKE AT ME
    AND DONT LAUPH TO MY CRYING

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    رفيق احمد
    I don't give shit about what you be do
    Ok

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    AAA SO THIS IS UR LOVE UNTIL 2 DAYS AGO?
    WHY?

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    رفيق احمد
    Yes

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    xxxx xxxx xxxx
    BC SHE HAS MORE MONEY?
    WHY?
    U DO THIS U DID TO Hxxxx TO ME?
    AND WHAT U MEAN I MUST...
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    ... STAY SILENCE? RU REALLY THREATING ME? WHAT U WILL DO AHMED? KILL ME? HAHHHHH U DID IT SO MANY TIMES MY LOVE

    2:27 μ.μ. رفيق احمد Look she is better than you , she love me and she prove her love to me . She really want me , not like you just talking. You put me all the time the last , she put me the first . So she deserve me

    2:28 μ.μ. xxxx xxxx xxxx WHY? BC I CANT BRINK U IN EUROPE? ITS OK MY LOVE

    2:28 μ.μ. رفيق احمد So hard for you to believe but this is the truth

    2:28 μ.μ.xxxx xxxx xxxx SHE WILL DO IT FOR ME

    2:28 μ.μ. رفيق احمد Hhhhhhhhhhhhh ok

    2:28 μ.μ. xxxx xxxx xxxx YESSSSSSSS BE SURE

    2:29 μ.μ. رفيق احمد Yes she be do , so stay waiting I be go now, have nice day

    2:29 μ.μ. xxxx xxxx xxxx IM NOT STAYING I DID ALREADY OUR PAPERS TO BELGIUM EMBASSY MY AND YOUR DOCUMENTS

    2:30 μ.μ. رفيق احمد No thanks dont do anything to me

    2:30 μ.μ. xxxx xxxx xxxx I DID IT ALREADY

    2:30 μ.μ. رفيق احمد You can put it in bathroom this paper

    2:31 μ.μ. xxxx xxxx xxxx NO ...
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    ...LOVE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    2:31 μ.μ. رفيق احمد I not want anything from you.

    2:31 μ.μ.xxxx xxxx xxxx HOW COME? AFTER 2 DAYS ?

    2:31 μ.μ. رفيق احمد Look I not give shit about what you do and what you think ok

    2:31 μ.μ. xxxx xxxx xxxx SHE PAY MUCH FOR U? SWETHEART WHEN U BACK IN HOME WE WILL TALK DONT WORRY

    2:32 μ.μ. رفيق احمد Ok like this you do

    2:32 μ.μ. xxxx xxxx xxxx WE HAVE MUCH THINGS

    2:32 μ.μ. رفيق احمد We be neverrr speak again until she go home

    2:32 μ.μ. xxxx xxxx xxxx WE WILL

    2:32 μ.μ. رفيق احمد Bye

    2:33 μ.μ. xxxx xxxx xxxx BE SURE DONT THREATING ME AHMED I CAN THREAT U MUCH MORE BELIEVE ME AND BE FUCK VERY CAREFUL OF HOW U TALK TO ME FROM NOW ON

    2:34 μ.μ. رفيق احمد Do it please please do it , do what you want. Threat me please please

    2:34 μ.μ. xxxx xxxx xxxx AND HOW U BE TRAT ME TREAT AWWWW REALLY? MY LOVE IM NOT Hxxxx U KNOW

    2:34 μ.μ. رفيق احمد I be dont care and do what you want okkk

    2:34 μ.μ.xxxx xxxx xxxx U WILL CARE MY LOVE U...
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    ... PROOVE ME HOW EASY AGAIN U SOLD OUT YOUSELF BUT I HAVE SOOOOOOOOOO BIGGGGGGGGGGG HEART THAT I FORGIVE U ONE MORE TIME AND I WILL BE NEXT TO U AGAIN

    2:36 μ.μ. رفيق احمد I tell her about what you say and what you want to do . And she not give shit about what you be say or what you be do okkk sweetheart

    2:36 μ.μ.xxxx xxxx xxxx ITS JUST NOT POSSIBLE TO FORGET 5 YEARS FOR 2 DAYS FUCKING AND FEW EUROS HAHAHAHAAAAAAA LET HER SHE TELL ME SURE U NOT HAVE THE DICKS TO TELL HER OR ELSE WHY U NOT GIVE ME HER FB? EEE????

    2:37 μ.μ. رفيق احمد She be not but try do something and you be see

    2:37 μ.μ. xxxx xxxx xxxx HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA U SCEAREDDDDDDDDDD U DID SHIT ON UR PANTS MY LOVE OF CAURCE U R FUCK SCEARED IF SHE FIND OUT ABOUT Jxxxxxxx,Hxxxx,AND ME

    2:38 μ.μ. رفيق احمد Yes I am and this why I tell her everything and I not hide anything from her . She know everything

    2:38 μ.μ. xxxx xxxx xxxx AHHHHHHHH AHMED SHE KNOW NOTHIND AT ALL

    2:38 μ.μ. رفيق احمد You be see xxxxx

    2:39...
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    ... μ.μ. xxxxx xxxx xxxx OR ELSE BY NOW OR U TELL ME HER FB

    2:39 μ.μ. رفيق احمد Byeeee

    2:39 μ.μ. xxxx xxxx xxxx OR SHE ASK FROM U MINE WHAT I BE SEE E? PLSSSS DONT THREAT ME AND BE CAREFUL TREAT THE WOMAN KINDLY AHMED AND NOT ACT TO HER LIKE ME AND THE BEFORE ME ITS EASY TO ME TO PAY AGAIN THE 120 EURO TO HACK HER AND CONTACT HER U KNOW IT VERY WELL IFFFFFFFFFFF SHE FIND OUT WHAT U DO TO EUROPEAN WOMEN ,CANADA BLA BLA BLA............... SHE WILL FUCK AND KILL UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU U KNOW THAT MY LOVE SO ,WE WILL TALK LATER ,DONT TRY TO AVOID ME ABOUT THE PAPERS U SAY TO I PUT IN BATHROOM JUST FORGET IT YOUR OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS ARE SENDED ALREADY WITH MINE TO BRUSSELS I WANT U TO BE THERE FASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT AFTER THAT I HAVE MY PLANS FOR U MY LOVE KISSESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS






     
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  2. Heidi

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    Ahmed Rafik - Rat

    Video call snapshot 2.png Bows are the new tiaras ;)
     
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    be very careful with them,do not trust anyone,all they want is to took money -papers from you,and run away from the misery and tunisia,they are the biggest liers in the world,just the cheapest gigolos,5 years i spend with one of them,i spend money,and finaly he called me b......ch,he said we re over ( see my money get off ) so he s looking now to contact for a new victim,from uk,france,germany,austria, or canada,all of them prefer the reach countries,oldest women with good jobs,or good retired money,or properties ,that they f........... you to sell out,like happeneds to me,so they have your money,to live them lives in luxury !!!!!!!!!!! i think you already know that all of them family members are inside to this conspire,just run away from them


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    She "prove her love for me " <<<by sending money ,,what a dickhead ,,he needs to be in the gallery under knob who thinks hes gods gift to women ...what an ugly excuse for a human..
     
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    YAY,,,,,,,,,you got him in the gallery...... I hope you can move on with your life and put him far far behind you..... And make you and your son lots of sweets to celebrate :D
     
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    Are those pictures of his latest he is mocking so badly?
     
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    It´s a fake fb - and I have an inkling who put it up :cool:
     
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    uh oh will wait for the volcano to erupt :p
     
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    Ahmed 'RAT' Rafik, what a fitting name for such a creature as this Tunisian nightmare. In North America we have a quote we use for people such as this 'RAT'.
    The quote "Oh! What a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive" refers to how complicated life becomes when people start lying. It originally referred to a love triangle in the play “Marmion” by Sir Walter Scott.
    You see this 'RAT' will swoon you with his words, so suave, so deliberate. He'll have you believing he's so in love with you. He'll beg and whimper in the beginning. Then when he's got you in his evil clutches, he'll turn on you and threaten you. He's a desperate little beast. I knew him since 2009 or so, met him in Tagged.com. He never flirted with me, just simple hello's! How are you? etc. Then a couple of years later, I was back in Canada and selling my home. He started to tell me he loved me. I made fun of him, scoffed at his words. But he appeared sincere because he never backed away, no matter how I laughed at his words. So, with my house sold, nothing tying me down, I planned to visit his country, maybe start a new life there. A business venture possibly in my horizon. Needless to say, I was unaware I was going to be his business venture. It all started out sweet and kind and of course for my safety in his country, he was to hold my cash in his pocket (to my dumbness). He acted so protective and concerned for my well being. Months passed, then we went to his Village of Kalaat Es Senam. He of course stayed home at nights with me, or took me to his brothers shop where they would talk and work on glass windows or paint frames. He would be sure I was along, nothing seemed painful for him at this time, having me along. He planned our wedding, with is family involved. He asked me for some $$ to paint the house and freshen things up for the event. I obliged (my dumb). After all I was living in their home at this time. Of course when the electric bill, water bill or the gas for the shower and stove in kitchen was to be purchased I always paid, because I was being respectful to the fact I was living in their home. His father paid their food, I could not eat the foods much so purchased what I could eat and also gave $$ for some fresh vegetables or fruits, to help the family. Our wedding time came, and passed. Then the changes began. He would go out at night till 2 or later, come home and of course his mom or sisters had to sit up to heat up food for him to eat. When I told him I was feeling lonely there alone at night, he'd say "I'm not babysitting you" "I'm not a man if I don't go out in the night to the coffee with my friends" The excuses and lack of empathy for my feelings grew more and more. I decided I needed to find a way to do a business, and find a home to have my own environment. Even though I was treated very well by his family, it was not my home. We looked at land for growing produce, Olive and almond orchards even. But the whole time, something was nagging me, and I could not commit to these things. He went to the Capitol, I thought to speak to people about us doing an egg business, but to my later discovery it was to meet with his other victim, Dahlia. She did not know about me, nor me about her. He came back, with a brand new fancy phone for himself, and another electronic item. Never minding he'd taken care of what he wanted and with my money of course. I would spend endless nights sitting up on the rooftop of the family home, crying and alone. His father would often come up to encourage me to come down and be with the family. Sadly, the 'RAT' was fine with his life, and didn't think it was a problem I sit there night after night alone. Time came I had to fly to Mexico, for my daughters wedding. He took advantage of this yet again, and invited Dahlia to keep him company and of course pay his keep while I was gone. Later she and I would discover that my trips away from Tunisia, would be her trips there. Even his own brother entertained with them in Hammamet while I was back in Canada shipping my car over. Not long after I shipped my car over, he'd pulled more crap. I had paid for his and his brothers drivers lessons and licenses. During another family wedding, he saw it ok, to use my car as an ambulance for a fainted member to go to hospital. Than they were cruising about in it. All the while I had no clue as my car was parked in a rented garage. 'Rat' even took my car joy riding with his brother and other village idiots, while I was out of the country and had papers signed and an agreement with their Duane, that my car would not be out on the roads while I was out of the country. They even damaged my car, which I would later learn from Dahlia. The time came I had decided I would move to Hammamet, be where I could go to a coffee, and feel like a human. I rented a place and started to live life as a human again. He invited family, of course I had to pay their food and they'd all sit up in the night laughing and talking. He'd not even check on me when I was sick on one occasion, as he was to preoccupied with them all. I started to feel more distance from them, from him. And he was becoming more and more angered with me due to the fact I would not buy him an $85,000.00 Tunisian Dinar closed coffee business. He even tried to get me to buy a $200,000.00 TDN house with a guest house. He said his family could come live us if I bought it. I was no longer stupid, he wanted it for them. Ramadan came, I fasted as did he. Our nights were spent with him on his pc, sitting across the room from me. I felt he was up to no good, but had no proof as of yet. One time I discovered he had a woman he was chatting with, when I spoke to him about it, he became very angry, yelling and denying it. One time traveling the Auto Route between Tunis and El Kef, he was fighting with me while I was driving my car. Pounding his fists on my dash of my car and yelling. I stopped my car, and pointing at him a deep voice yelled out of me at him to shut up, and get out of my car. He sunk in his seat, nervous. He'd been used to threatening me with his words, but this time, I had it. He shut up the rest of the way. I stayed one night at his families home and headed back to Hammamet. He was fighting with me almost daily. I reminded him I paid for all, his clothes, food, shelter, hot water, heat for the home, I did all the work, paid his food when we went out. But I was NOT going to buy a big house for his family, NOT going to buy any more gold for his new sister in law his brother was going to marry. NOT buying a coffee business that he and ONLY he was going to manage, AND, I was shipping my GMC back to Canada, not putting it in his name. I was no longer stupid. So the car was shipped, and when I returned to Canada to claim my car from the ship. I was sent a letter in Facebook, from him. Informing me he wanted a divorce. His life was hell with me He then proceeded to attack my friends and family on Facebook. When I had finished my business in Mexico and had to return to Tunisia to prepare for my divorce. He was acting like he wanted to keep me in his life, and sorry and he was pawing at me when we had to deal with travel for court issues and such. I was disgusted by his presence. He even brought his newest victim to my home, I was not angry at her by no means. I did try to warn her, but like his newest victim now, she's going to find out the hard way. He's manipulative, abusive in his yelling and hitting doors or walls. He'd threatened my life, my families life, he's told endless lies about me. The sickest thing is he will say that we European Bitches are nasty, how we use toilet paper in the bathroom. YET, he would go weeks and weeks with no shower or bathing. He glued his hair with gel, and his head had huge flakes the size of a Tunisian Millium, come off his head if he combed his hair. I paid for a skin specialist for him, and he was told no cheese or greasy foods. His Acne was a mess and the treatments a waste of my $$ as he'd continue to eat what he was told not to. He appears to have nice wrapping on the outside, but it's the inside that's rotten and evil to the core. I could write a book on all the horrible things he's done to me. The way he uses us women and throws us away, with no feeling and then attacks us for speaking the truth. He's an evil being with no feelings or conscious. Eats like a pig, drains you of your money, then abuses you verbally and threatens you if you dare to stand up to him. Then abandons or tosses you away. I pity any woman who involves herself with this 'RAT' And his family know full well what he's doing, and they are in his theatrical play 100%. Yes Ahmed 'RAT' Rafik. One day, you will suffer for your evil games. And your friends and family right along with you. I've learned so much from this horrible time I spent with this being. I only wish his newest one could see just how many of us he's done this too.
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    Hey, Heidi C....welcome to our awesome survivors club!! Hope you're doing ok? You sure wrote a lot I could relate to! Well done, you...it's a big step to publicly 'out' these evil rats :)
    I'm thinking they're all like this, the shites! All sweetness and light until they thoroughly hook us and next....they turn into the devil incarnate :Evil:
    Mine did this too, took me to work with him many a time....I've been to many parties and weddings because of his work. When he wasn't working, evenings were always spent either beating me or threatening my family. Oh, happy days, eh haha! :D
    Omg :eek: My ratty family never took a penny off me....how shameless your rat family were to take money from you to pay their bills! :eek:
    Yes, my rat and all the family males did this too! I used to get so angry with them, waking mummy up to cook at 2am...and mummy rat is always happy to do this too :eek: Pampered bloody princes, waited on hand and bloody foot....tis no wonder they never grow up!
    I practically lived on the roof. Countless hours were just spent up there thinking, watching the night sky. If I was up there upset, the family would be bringing me up food, drinks, blankets etc....and keep patting me on the head like a dog! :D It's funny now, but it wasn't so funny back then...I can completely understand your need for solitude on the roof :)
    Mine was a weirdo when I was sick, couldn't do enough for me! Cooked for me, tucked me up in bed, rushed me to the doctors (at his expense), completely mollycoddled me, yet days later....he'd be beating the crap outta me! Strange creatures, these rats :rolleyes:
    Holy bloody camel!! The greed of this rat :eek: I'm lost for words, mine didn't ask for anything...except that dang visa! I can't believe how shameless and greedy your rat was....wow!! :eek:
    Switch the PC for a phone....and that was pretty much my rats entire day! Prostitutes :Evil:
    Mine did this too. I'm highlighting this stuff to show you....they're all the bloody same! :rolleyes:
    Snap :thumbsup:
    Hahaha!! Omg, they're filthy buggers ain't they! Wipe their asses with their hands, often have no soap...and call us dirty! I lived in the bloody shower over there, only way I could cope with the heat and the dust....he would shower maybe once a week if I pressured him, NEVER brushed his teeth, always had his hand inside his pants, alternating between his ass and his zibi :sick: The hair gel, oh God...that hair gel...I think most of us are traumatised with memories about the tub of gel they plastered on their unwashed hair every day :D Mine had the big, white flakes too! Used to sit on the floor between mummies legs while she combed them out, eeeeew :sick::D

    Well girl, I'm just happy you're away from this ratty freak! Onwards and upwards, eh :)
     
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    What a horrible story and experience, so glad you escaped and got out. I smiled at the $85,000 for a coffee shop I had this request too, just take from the bank my love and also $200,000 for a big restaurant, it must be the golden figure. I just laughed at his stupidity and said I would prefer to buy an animal sanctuary, to which I was told no no my love you are not normal!!! He would know normal if it smacked him in the eye.

    Does his new victim read here? I hope she will see the light before she sees his fist.
     
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    Haha, you are not normal, you are crazy in the head, there is something wrong with you, you need the special doctor...words I heard frequently in that final year :D Just take it from the bank :D How the hell do they think it got in the bank? I remember my kids using that line on me when they were little dots with their eye on a new toy: "Just take the money out of the bank, mummy"...they've now realised life isn't quite that simple...if only the rats would realise! My rat said "It doesn't matter if we don't work in your country, your government will just give us everything for free! Free house, food, hospital and money...it's all for free with your government". I literally laughed :D If only life were really that simple! Should love to understand just how uneducated you have to be to be so stupid :confused: Life is not free!
     
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    No, I don't believe she even knows this site exists. And I can assure you her new 'RAT' knows and will do everything it takes to keep her from knowing, too. Oh yes, I swear they are taught the same things in either their homes, or at school or their little pack of wild street dog groups that roam the village streets and infest the local coffee shops or net cafe's. It's the same bullshit song and dance, time after time. They're self serving creatures with only $$ in their eyes and greed and hate in their hearts. OH yes, heaven forbid you had suggested a animal sanctuary, it would not be in his interest for sure lol. They are a breed like no other, these ones who pray upon us women. I do know some who have no interest to marry either their own or one of us, they're too busy trying to work every day to support themselves and their mothers who have no husband alive anymore to help put food on the table. Those are the Tunisian men I have highest respect for and I know a couple for sure who are on that list.
     
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    Oh dear :Cry: I sincerely hope those glasses fall soon...before the damage is beyond repair. Which country is his new victim from? I don't want him here! :eek: I don't understand how this grossly fat and cross eyed, blatant rat is getting so many victims, especially with such a nasty personality! Lovebombing and brainwashing, eh....it caught us all in its trap :(
     
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    @Mango Chutney , she is not in your country ;)

    The victim wrote to Dalia Hantzi :

    Look Anna, I am sorry for you that you have had bad experience and that you have the feeling of being used. But when a relation is over , whatever the reason is , it's over and you must accept that and go on with your life . I see that you missed the possibilty to let the past behind you and all this months trying to convince me that Ahmed is a rat . For me you need help and you must make an appointment with psychiater , because you really need a treatment . Don't involve in my life because that's not your business . I love Ahmed and he love ùe . Better you accept it . I give you the advice to stop with what you doing and let us live our lives ... This time I am friendly next time i am not anymore . ok

    http://www.tunisianloverats.com/Gallery/albums/not-1-but-2-victims-at-the-same-time.857/
     
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    Bloody hell, those are the sure text book words of a victim firmly stuck in the Amiga stage....God help her. One day, it will be she trying to help his next victim, as Anna has tried to help her. The only things guaranteed in rat life are that we are emotionally destroyed, financially destroyed and that one day....those glasses fall, reality hits like a ton of bricks.
     
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    Just in case I'm mixing up the threads. Ahmed has new wife and baby due. Was also Ahmed rat of Dalia and also Heidi C or am I confusing the names.
     
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    Two of Ahmed´s ex victims are Dalia and Heidi C.....

    dalia hantzi @Sun rise OOOO IM SURE ABOUT IT,IF SURE ITS TRUE THAT SHE S PREGNANT !!!!!!!!!!!! SO HE TOLD ME,AND HIS NIECE :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
     
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    Got it now, re-read the whole thread. He's been a busy lad since 2009 and still at it. But has he got the golden ticket yet? God I truly hope not.
     
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    Ohhh, it's that girl soon will need the help. That's obviously.
     
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    Wow, what a story! This guy is a real piece of work! I'm glad you got the hell out of Tunisia, and managed to hang on to your money! Sadly I'm sure this rat will find someone else to leach off of. Welcome back home:)
     
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    Oh he's a true piece of work that's for sure, and his family and friends are all in the game right along with him. He's got a new victim, she's been warned but she refuses to listen. I'm sure he'll drain her bank account and throw her to the wind for another new victim. There is only one way this guy will ever stop, that's when he's 6 feet under. I'm very glad to be home in Canada :)
     
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    OMG I just read your reply at the end of this post, about your rat's unsanitary habits and his huge flakes. It's just horrible how they say we stink cause we use toilet paper, yet I showered about every other day and like I said, my rat went weeks without bathing. LMAO @ Zibi. They're always handling themselves down there or at the backside. It's worse then the males in North America that's for sure.
     

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