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Galleta

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When you put it like that I see the sordid reality and reinforces the need for me to leave.
Yes he’s younger than me and in real life I’m not “ into “ younger guys . But in the online world ages don’t seem relevant as we are communing on an invisible plane ( though we do exchange pics sometimes).

But I guess seen from the outside it would look like a case of desperate old woman wanting a younger man for sex etc because they can’t find a real man because they’re old, ugly etc

This is far from what this is about - I’m not showing off but I’m not ugly and have never lacked a man in “ real life” - indeed I have a partner ( who for reasons I can’t explain , I cannot leave) - and the feeling I have for this guy are pure

That’s why it devastate me to think what a horrible cheap game it may be in the reality
Galleta, I can promise you, if this thing was suddenly exposed to the public, you would not be able to deny any aspect of the reality of this situation, all of the blind spots, and all of the game that this really is... this thing is surviving because it's hidden and it's in a dream world.

Your rat lives in a harsh reality not buffered by a thriving economy... it's in an impoverished setting, with survive or die mentality, men who have sex with men in gender segregation to vent sexual frustration, they also sell themselves to male tourists... as they chase after other Tunisian women who will put out - of course, they see themselves as eventually getting the Tunisian virgin and settling down into a "respectable Tunisian muslim male" life... whatever that looks like exactly mixed with bezness.

Your rat is not thinking like you. Dreams are afforded to the rich, not to the poor and in Tunisia. Dreams in Tunisia are dangerous and lead to deadly and devastating outcomes. They know this, and your rat knows this speaking with an older, married woman.
interesting post Jisela. Seen like this it puts things in perspective- as you say dreams are a luxury and life there is harsh - the cold reality of this is painful but true
I have to end it for the 2 of us- I’m wasting his time and he, mine
Though I’m the only one who will get hurt
 

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Despite what you think @Galleta nothing bad is going to happen to you if you stop. You won’t get sick or die of heartbreak. Your limbs will be intact and the sun will rise each day.

You may even find you have a huge amount of time to spend on other more meaningful things. There are hundreds of ways to fill the time you spend thinking about him and talking with him. How did you spend your time before you knew him?

Your online fantasy is preventing you from living in the real world or from confronting things in your real life that may make you happier.

Once I realised I was purely entertainment for my rat and that their were no sincere feelings (or any feelings at all) the attraction waned and I saw it for what it was. There are now not enough hours in the day to do all I need and want to do. Entertaining some twat sitting in a coffee shop is not one of them.
Haha that made me laugh
Entertaining a twat in a coffee shop
 

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I hope you get the right support team together to help you through the process. Please get a great therapist who can provide you any backup medical care that you need. It's not easy to get out, but it's worth doing it once you get through the withdrawal. You will look back and be happy you're out. There's no hope in Tunisia for this situation... there's barely any hope for the men and women BORN in Tunisia.
I have no support as no one in my real life knows about this ( I would never get over the embarrassment as they’d think I’ve gone mad) however it’s very helpful to have people here giving advice as you’ve all been in similar situations
I tried therapy, it was useless to tell the truth
 

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I hope you get the right support team together to help you through the process. Please get a great therapist who can provide you any backup medical care that you need. It's not easy to get out, but it's worth doing it once you get through the withdrawal. You will look back and be happy you're out. There's no hope in Tunisia for this situation... there's barely any hope for the men and women BORN in Tunisia.
What you say about people in Tunisia not having hope - he told me this once . And I think maybe they can’t be blamed for being like this ? I mean , if we were in this situation - living in a dump they are trapped in - they’re not even allowed to have a holiday without a visa - and no hope of an interesting career in spite of education- no hope of marriage if they don’t have money- can’t even have normal relations with women at an age (30 in his case) when most guys here are in their prime - with all this going on no wonder they are how they are. This is why I feel for him as well as I can see his frustration with life sometimes
 

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Yeah, or get married to a Tunisian virgin and invite you to the wedding. Any man involved in this kind of stuff can do just about anything at the end of it all. You never know what kind of awful surprise you're in for...
He did say he will invite me to his wedding one day funnily enough
 

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But I guess seen from the outside it would look like a case of desperate old woman wanting a younger man for sex etc because they can’t find a real man because they’re old, ugly etc
Not to me, it doesn't....and not to any survivor of a narcissist.
Please, do read up on it.....you will see what you are involved in as clear as day.
Make the break now....because the longer you leave it, the harder it gets, and five years online is no relationship.
It is pretty clear to me that something went wrong with his other source of income (his main victim)....and he has now resorted to this manipulative behaviour with you and countless others.
Did you ever read Laura's 'First time here thread'?
Have a read.....you will relate to it completely:

https://www.tunisianloverats.com/threads/if-its-your-first-time-here-read-this.4344/

You need only read the opening post, unless you wish to read more.....you will see your life story on there.

Every Friday morning, I receive counselling....it is long term counselling, the allocated twenty sessions have already been extended....they were in my first appointment.
I have counselling because I lived with my freak, where I was controlled and manipulated like you, where I was frequently assaulted in many ways, where I was held hostage in his family home, my means of escape stolen.
Is this what you want? If you ever meet him....you'd better prepare yourself for hell after the initial 'Mr Nice Guy' wears off.

If you do not intend to meet him, then what is the point in any of this? Where do you see this 'relationship' with an internet scammer going?
 

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Please listen to these ladies and know that everyone is here trying to help you because everyone lived it and that this is no joke. This will not end well for you if you continue. You will not get the happy ending that you are looking for, but he will.
 

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And I think maybe they can’t be blamed for being like this ?
Oh my freakin God!!!! Please tell me you are not for real!! :eek:
These men emotionally, financially and physically destroy innocent people that loved them....and you say they are not to blame :eek:
My children were sent death threats!
Women have died!
Could you stand in a court room and justify that? Say they can't be blamed? My God....what is this shit? :eek:
Their scam is premeditated, they are in control....they CHOOSE to be scamming prostitutes because they are good for nothing pieces of trash....they can't be bothered to advance the proper way.....they get no pity, no excuses..... :Evil:
they’re not even allowed to have a holiday without a visa
Yes they are! There are plenty of countries they can visit visa free. They don't want those countries.....because the benefits pot isn't there.
can’t even have normal relations with women at an age (30 in his case) when most guys here are in their prime
Are you serious? They can get sex easily in Tunisia, with men and women, paid for or free.....in any hole.
Google hymen reconstruction in Tunisia.....see how many brides marry with a plastic hymen.
Their women ARE NOT innocent virgins....and the men sleep with each other.
I lived there....I saw cheap behaviour like I've never seen before in my well travelled life!
These rats are whores....and they have sex a plenty...so please move away from the innocent virgin bullshit.
This is why I feel for him as well as I can see his frustration with life sometimes
Well then you are a fool.....no wonder he plays you like a toy :rolleyes:
No pity....the lazy twathead CHOSE to be a scamming prostitute.....nobody forced him :Evil:
 

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The two of you have been communicating for 5 years now. You mentioned that you both have the understanding that there will be no marriage in the future....so I guess I am not clear on what the two of you are heading towards then, what exactly are you looking to gain from all of this?
 

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Tunisian men like this are big whores and deserve to get the smack down 100%. Galleta, I would encourage you to escape this Tunisian rat before you share in HIS portion of judgment that will come from prostitution. Pouring out your sympathy and love out on a Tunisian prostitute is completely wasted... it's all evil, even the young men who see themselves as innocent and walking around in the traditions of evil men -- they deserve the circumstances that they are creating by selling dreams, lies, snake oil, and abuse to unsuspecting victims.
Oh god your story was terrible and I’m in no way condoning violence , prostitution and so on .. I just meant the general frustration is understandsble and the wanting to get the hell out of that country
 

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The two of you have been communicating for 5 years now. You mentioned that you both have the understanding that there will be no marriage in the future....so I guess I am not clear on what the two of you are heading towards then, what exactly are you looking to gain from all of this?
Good question - i often ask myself this !!
 

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I know that you are probably trying to absorb everything you are hearing and we all know that the hard truth hurts. Perhaps you need to look up a good muslim then because they don't fish online for older women first of all. We are infidels to them, they hate us, they hate anyone from western countries. Those years of conversations you've been having aren't real, they are staged. They follow the same script with everyone. Hell you are not even talking to him all the time, you are talking to his friends and relatives. Come on girl....I know you hear us
 

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I hear what you’re saying - I’ve got to break free as Freddy Mercury would say - and tonight !! But what can my final words be ? Don’t want to just block and vanish , that’s childish . Or just say “ bye “ . Want to say something that won’t be blaming (after all I don’t have evidence he’s scammed me and he has not been as vile as some of the rats on here ) but give me a get out on a good note. Any ideas?
 

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I just meant the general frustration is understandsble and the wanting to get the hell out of that country
I want to get the hell outta my country....should I scam an innocent person to achieve this?
Should I control, manipulate, steal from, rape, beat and imprison some innocent person that falls in love with me? Threaten to kill children? Lie, cheat and scam?
Does that make it ok, because I'm too lazy to get a real job and get my hands dirty? :confused:
 

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I know that you are probably trying to absorb everything you are hearing and we all know that the hard truth hurts. Perhaps you need to look up a good muslim then because they don't fish online for older women first of all. We are infidels to them, they hate us, they hate anyone from western countries. Those years of conversations you've been having aren't real, they are staged. They follow the same script with everyone. Hell you are not even talking to him all the time, you are talking to his friends and relatives. Come on girl....I know you hear us
But I don’t thinks I’m talking to his friends etc ... they would need his password ! Which I’m sure he wouldn’t give , it’s a real FB account.. I feel he’s not as scammerish ( if that’s a word)? As some of these rats I’m reading about
 

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But I don’t thinks I’m talking to his friends etc ... they would need his password ! Which I’m sure he wouldn’t give , it’s a real FB account.. I feel he’s not as scammerish ( if that’s a word)? As some of these rats I’m reading about
They hand their logged in accounts to friends and family members, while they eat, shag a local....or Skype with the other victims.
You'd be amazed what you see when you live there :thumbsup:
I feel he’s not as scammerish ( if that’s a word)? As some of these rats I’m reading about
Wakey, wakey.....he's really taking you for a ride :rolleyes:
 

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What you say about people in Tunisia not having hope - he told me this once . And I think maybe they can’t be blamed for being like this ? I mean , if we were in this situation - living in a dump they are trapped in - they’re not even allowed to have a holiday without a visa - and no hope of an interesting career in spite of education- no hope of marriage if they don’t have money- can’t even have normal relations with women at an age (30 in his case) when most guys here are in their prime - with all this going on no wonder they are how they are. This is why I feel for him as well as I can see his frustration with life sometimes
sorry Galleta but there is no excuse to abuse other people. no excuse.
 

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I want to get the hell outta my country....should I scam an innocent person to achieve this?
Should I control, manipulate, steal from, rape, beat and imprison some innocent person that falls in love with me? Threaten to kill children? Lie, cheat and scam?
Does that make it ok, because I'm too lazy to get a real job and get my hands dirty? :confused:
No of course not !! But to be fair my friend has never been as bad as this- just has this thing of getting close and pushing away all the time which can hurt me a lot
 

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They hand their logged in accounts to friends and family members, while they eat, shag a local....or Skype with the other victims.
You'd be amazed what you see when you live there :thumbsup:

Wakey, wakey.....he's really taking you for a ride :rolleyes:
But we’ve exchanged pics etc ... surely he wouldn’t want his family or friends to see them?
 
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