Do you think she is a rat? I need advice...

[realisticadam]

I am a 25-year-old doctor living in the UK. A year and a half ago (July 2021), I was on vacation in Tunisia and I met a girl lets call her "Z". She was 20 years old, a humanities student and we struck up a conversation while I was there. We exchanged contact information and continued to talk after I returned home.
At first, I was just enjoying getting to know her. We would talk for hours on end and make video calls. She seemed genuinely interested in me and I was starting to develop feelings for her. After about a month, Z told me she loved me and I was over the moon.
But things started to change soon after that. She told me that her internet was over and asked me for money to pay for it. I didn't think much of it at the time and I sent her the money. Then she started asking for gifts and said she wanted to meet in person. She even asked me to apply for her visa so she could come to the UK.
She was very affectionate with me, saying that she loved me and talking about our future together. She even told her family about me, but not her father. She kept asking for more and more money and wanted to get married as soon as possible. I was getting suspicious but couldn't bring myself to believe that she was just using me.
But then in November 2022, she blocked me. I was confused and didn't know what had happened. After a few weeks, she unblocked me and started talking to me again but she was cold and distant. She told me that if I didn't marry her, she would not like to talk to me and would marry someone else. I felt trapped and didn't know what to do.
I couldn't understand how someone I had grown to care for could do this to me. I felt betrayed and devastated. I couldn't believe that I had let myself fall for someone who was only using me for financial gain and using the marriage as a way to come to the UK.
I was confused and didn't know what to do. Our relationship had been on and off for weeks, and I was unsure if I should continue to try and make it work or if I should move on. I felt like I was being played and I didn't want to be a part of it anymore.
Since then, I haven't responded to any of her messages. I thought that since it's been two months, she would eventually just go away. But let me tell you, Z still messages me once in a while. Sometimes she curses me and calls me a coward, and other times she just says sorry and sends cute texts. Although I have made my mind not to talk to her, I would like to hear any advice you may have. Thanks for reading this far

 

[pingle2093]

Yes she's trying to manipulate you, by making you feel guilty for not marrying her. She love bombed you initially, now she's trying to make you feel guilty. My suggestion is block her and move on to someone who respects you.

 

[Astarisborn]

I am a 25-year-old doctor living in the UK. A year and a half ago (July 2021), I was on vacation in Tunisia and I met a girl lets call her "Z". She was 20 years old, a humanities student and we struck up a conversation while I was there. We exchanged contact information and continued to talk after I returned home.
At first, I was just enjoying getting to know her. We would talk for hours on end and make video calls. She seemed genuinely interested in me and I was starting to develop feelings for her. After about a month, Z told me she loved me and I was over the moon.
But things started to change soon after that. She told me that her internet was over and asked me for money to pay for it. I didn't think much of it at the time and I sent her the money. Then she started asking for gifts and said she wanted to meet in person. She even asked me to apply for her visa so she could come to the UK.
She was very affectionate with me, saying that she loved me and talking about our future together. She even told her family about me, but not her father. She kept asking for more and more money and wanted to get married as soon as possible. I was getting suspicious but couldn't bring myself to believe that she was just using me.
But then in November 2022, she blocked me. I was confused and didn't know what had happened. After a few weeks, she unblocked me and started talking to me again but she was cold and distant. She told me that if I didn't marry her, she would not like to talk to me and would marry someone else. I felt trapped and didn't know what to do.
I couldn't understand how someone I had grown to care for could do this to me. I felt betrayed and devastated. I couldn't believe that I had let myself fall for someone who was only using me for financial gain and using the marriage as a way to come to the UK.
I was confused and didn't know what to do. Our relationship had been on and off for weeks, and I was unsure if I should continue to try and make it work or if I should move on. I felt like I was being played and I didn't want to be a part of it anymore.
Since then, I haven't responded to any of her messages. I thought that since it's been two months, she would eventually just go away. But let me tell you, Z still messages me once in a while. Sometimes she curses me and calls me a coward, and other times she just says sorry and sends cute texts. Although I have made my mind not to talk to her, I would like to hear any advice you may have. Thanks for reading this far

She is a typical Tunisian Love Rat, they have many on the go while using you.
When you were giving her money she kept pulling you in with love bombing, compliments etc.
They pressure for marriage to get where they want to go, in this case to your country
When you were not giving in that's what they do is block and then recycle the whole
thing back to you again.
It's obvious the when you were not taking her on as in marrying her she was all the time
picking other victims out.
She never needed the money in the first place for what she said she needed it for
its all a ploy, trust me her father knows and is the first to be in
on it.
It's like she picked you because of the quick opportunities you could give her
These love rats will suck you in and spit you out, all at first with emotional manipulation
who tells you they love you from so far away so soon?
Cut your losses, you have a lot to offer to the right person, this one is not it.
It is all narcissistic games all this back and forth
And the trust is broken now, how do you know she did not have many
like you in her snare, they always look for better and the quicker
they can get you to do what they want they will do anything and when
you do all for this rat she will make sure you will be forever trapped
paying all.
then she will want her family there, you will pay for that also
been there with a Tunisian Love Rat for years until I decided to
end it, they will use you until there is nothing left of you
I am sorry to say the truth, but the truth will set you free!!

 

[Sabrina]

I am a 25-year-old doctor living in the UK. A year and a half ago (July 2021), I was on vacation in Tunisia and I met a girl lets call her "Z". She was 20 years old, a humanities student and we struck up a conversation while I was there. We exchanged contact information and continued to talk after I returned home.
At first, I was just enjoying getting to know her. We would talk for hours on end and make video calls. She seemed genuinely interested in me and I was starting to develop feelings for her. After about a month, Z told me she loved me and I was over the moon.
But things started to change soon after that. She told me that her internet was over and asked me for money to pay for it. I didn't think much of it at the time and I sent her the money. Then she started asking for gifts and said she wanted to meet in person. She even asked me to apply for her visa so she could come to the UK.
She was very affectionate with me, saying that she loved me and talking about our future together. She even told her family about me, but not her father. She kept asking for more and more money and wanted to get married as soon as possible. I was getting suspicious but couldn't bring myself to believe that she was just using me.
But then in November 2022, she blocked me. I was confused and didn't know what had happened. After a few weeks, she unblocked me and started talking to me again but she was cold and distant. She told me that if I didn't marry her, she would not like to talk to me and would marry someone else. I felt trapped and didn't know what to do.
I couldn't understand how someone I had grown to care for could do this to me. I felt betrayed and devastated. I couldn't believe that I had let myself fall for someone who was only using me for financial gain and using the marriage as a way to come to the UK.
I was confused and didn't know what to do. Our relationship had been on and off for weeks, and I was unsure if I should continue to try and make it work or if I should move on. I felt like I was being played and I didn't want to be a part of it anymore.
Since then, I haven't responded to any of her messages. I thought that since it's been two months, she would eventually just go away. But let me tell you, Z still messages me once in a while. Sometimes she curses me and calls me a coward, and other times she just says sorry and sends cute texts. Although I have made my mind not to talk to her, I would like to hear any advice you may have. Thanks for reading this far

Sorry I haven’t even read this all and already know you are dealing with a RAT!! Please she moved very fast as they all do and you regretfully sent her money!? Now it will not stop! Do not send any photos that might incriminate you as you do not want your reputation tarnished!!!!! I’m going to keep reading but please if you are a smart man or woman you will move on quickly!!!!

 

[Sabrina]

I am a 25-year-old doctor living in the UK. A year and a half ago (July 2021), I was on vacation in Tunisia and I met a girl lets call her "Z". She was 20 years old, a humanities student and we struck up a conversation while I was there. We exchanged contact information and continued to talk after I returned home.
At first, I was just enjoying getting to know her. We would talk for hours on end and make video calls. She seemed genuinely interested in me and I was starting to develop feelings for her. After about a month, Z told me she loved me and I was over the moon.
But things started to change soon after that. She told me that her internet was over and asked me for money to pay for it. I didn't think much of it at the time and I sent her the money. Then she started asking for gifts and said she wanted to meet in person. She even asked me to apply for her visa so she could come to the UK.
She was very affectionate with me, saying that she loved me and talking about our future together. She even told her family about me, but not her father. She kept asking for more and more money and wanted to get married as soon as possible. I was getting suspicious but couldn't bring myself to believe that she was just using me.
But then in November 2022, she blocked me. I was confused and didn't know what had happened. After a few weeks, she unblocked me and started talking to me again but she was cold and distant. She told me that if I didn't marry her, she would not like to talk to me and would marry someone else. I felt trapped and didn't know what to do.
I couldn't understand how someone I had grown to care for could do this to me. I felt betrayed and devastated. I couldn't believe that I had let myself fall for someone who was only using me for financial gain and using the marriage as a way to come to the UK.
I was confused and didn't know what to do. Our relationship had been on and off for weeks, and I was unsure if I should continue to try and make it work or if I should move on. I felt like I was being played and I didn't want to be a part of it anymore.
Since then, I haven't responded to any of her messages. I thought that since it's been two months, she would eventually just go away. But let me tell you, Z still messages me once in a while. Sometimes she curses me and calls me a coward, and other times she just says sorry and sends cute texts. Although I have made my mind not to talk to her, I would like to hear any advice you may have. Thanks for reading this far

They never go away, they play games this person is clearly using you from day one! Welcome to our world..BLOCK DELETE AND DO NOT LOOK BACK! Yes they will curse you and play their games, you have no idea what you have gotten yourself into, hopefully you are finished and hope you take our advice seriously.. she is no good

 

[Kate]

Sorry you have been scammed. Sad to see another kind, generous person used and taken advantage of. Trust us… you need to block, delete, and move on. There were about 100 red flags in your story, and all of them very familiar to us here. This girl is lying to you and manipulating you. Now she’s trying different techniques to keep you on the hook. Block, block, block.

 

[Butterflies]

I am a 25-year-old doctor living in the UK. A year and a half ago (July 2021), I was on vacation in Tunisia and I met a girl lets call her "Z". She was 20 years old, a humanities student and we struck up a conversation while I was there. We exchanged contact information and continued to talk after I returned home.
At first, I was just enjoying getting to know her. We would talk for hours on end and make video calls. She seemed genuinely interested in me and I was starting to develop feelings for her. After about a month, Z told me she loved me and I was over the moon.
But things started to change soon after that. She told me that her internet was over and asked me for money to pay for it. I didn't think much of it at the time and I sent her the money. Then she started asking for gifts and said she wanted to meet in person. She even asked me to apply for her visa so she could come to the UK.
She was very affectionate with me, saying that she loved me and talking about our future together. She even told her family about me, but not her father. She kept asking for more and more money and wanted to get married as soon as possible. I was getting suspicious but couldn't bring myself to believe that she was just using me.
But then in November 2022, she blocked me. I was confused and didn't know what had happened. After a few weeks, she unblocked me and started talking to me again but she was cold and distant. She told me that if I didn't marry her, she would not like to talk to me and would marry someone else. I felt trapped and didn't know what to do.
I couldn't understand how someone I had grown to care for could do this to me. I felt betrayed and devastated. I couldn't believe that I had let myself fall for someone who was only using me for financial gain and using the marriage as a way to come to the UK.
I was confused and didn't know what to do. Our relationship had been on and off for weeks, and I was unsure if I should continue to try and make it work or if I should move on. I felt like I was being played and I didn't want to be a part of it anymore.
Since then, I haven't responded to any of her messages. I thought that since it's been two months, she would eventually just go away. But let me tell you, Z still messages me once in a while. Sometimes she curses me and calls me a coward, and other times she just says sorry and sends cute texts. Although I have made my mind not to talk to her, I would like to hear any advice you may have. Thanks for reading this far

Hi @realisticadam welcome to the forum. Men or women practice the same techniques for bezness.
She declares her love for you, asking and accepting money, she asked you to apply for a visa, she wanted a quick marriage.....
She's a female rat there's no doubt about it and she's not even hiding it because a respectable tunisian woman wouldn't do all these things.
Read up about tunisian culture and traditions regarding to marriage and how it all works.
She unblocked you to curse at you or say you are a coward.... She's just waiting for you to react to it because no man would want to be called a coward
Read around on the forum or take a look in the media section there are a few women mentioned there.
She used you, she scammed you and it's sad and you will feel hurt but it's better to call it quits now before you are in it to deep because this will not end well if you continue this relationship.
She will marry you, she will come to the UK and pretend to love you for a long time but after her visa is all sorted so she has her indefinite stay she will divorce you.

 

[realisticadam]

Thank you everyone for your advice. It has made everything clear. I am certainly not going back.

 

[Sabrina]

Hi @realisticadam welcome to the forum. Men or women practice the same techniques for bezness.
She declares her love for you, asking and accepting money, she asked you to apply for a visa, she wanted a quick marriage.....
She's a female rat there's no doubt about it and she's not even hiding it because a respectable tunisian woman wouldn't do all these things.
Read up about tunisian culture and traditions regarding to marriage and how it all works.
She unblocked you to curse at you or say you are a coward.... She's just waiting for you to react to it because no man would want to be called a coward
Read around on the forum or take a look in the media section there are a few women mentioned there.
She used you, she scammed you and it's sad and you will feel hurt but it's better to call it quits now before you are in it to deep because this will not end well if you continue this relationship.
She will marry you, she will come to the UK and pretend to love you for a long time but after her visa is all sorted so she has her indefinite stay she will divorce you.

With that being said… according to some of the stories on here, you being a doctor she will take you for all the money you have. Claiming abuse, and lying about everything making you look bad. There are men away from Tunisia that have done this with the women they hook…you know how bad that looks (at least it’s the way they want it to look) but imagine a woman claiming physical abuse.. seriously they will do anything to get a visa and money!

 

[realisticadam]

With that being said… according to some of the stories on here, you being a doctor she will take you for all the money you have. Claiming abuse, and lying about everything making you look bad. There are men away from Tunisia that have done this with the women they hook…you know how bad that looks (at least it’s the way they want it to look) but imagine a woman claiming physical abuse.. seriously they will do anything to get a visa and money!

Yes @Sabrina If i had got her in the UK and in the future maybe she would have reported physical abuse, I would have probably gotten laid off from my job and not to mention how it would have tarnished my image, well i guess i dodged a bullet quite early haha!

 

[Moonshine]

I am a 25-year-old doctor living in the UK. A year and a half ago (July 2021), I was on vacation in Tunisia and I met a girl lets call her "Z". She was 20 years old, a humanities student and we struck up a conversation while I was there. We exchanged contact information and continued to talk after I returned home.
At first, I was just enjoying getting to know her. We would talk for hours on end and make video calls. She seemed genuinely interested in me and I was starting to develop feelings for her. After about a month, Z told me she loved me and I was over the moon.
But things started to change soon after that. She told me that her internet was over and asked me for money to pay for it. I didn't think much of it at the time and I sent her the money. Then she started asking for gifts and said she wanted to meet in person. She even asked me to apply for her visa so she could come to the UK.
She was very affectionate with me, saying that she loved me and talking about our future together. She even told her family about me, but not her father. She kept asking for more and more money and wanted to get married as soon as possible. I was getting suspicious but couldn't bring myself to believe that she was just using me.
But then in November 2022, she blocked me. I was confused and didn't know what had happened. After a few weeks, she unblocked me and started talking to me again but she was cold and distant. She told me that if I didn't marry her, she would not like to talk to me and would marry someone else. I felt trapped and didn't know what to do.
I couldn't understand how someone I had grown to care for could do this to me. I felt betrayed and devastated. I couldn't believe that I had let myself fall for someone who was only using me for financial gain and using the marriage as a way to come to the UK.
I was confused and didn't know what to do. Our relationship had been on and off for weeks, and I was unsure if I should continue to try and make it work or if I should move on. I felt like I was being played and I didn't want to be a part of it anymore.
Since then, I haven't responded to any of her messages. I thought that since it's been two months, she would eventually just go away. But let me tell you, Z still messages me once in a while. Sometimes she curses me and calls me a coward, and other times she just says sorry and sends cute texts. Although I have made my mind not to talk to her, I would like to hear any advice you may have. Thanks for reading this far

Sorry she's a female rat they are as bad as the male rats
First red flag Internet gone money needed that's all rats first demands!!
2nd desperate to marry and have visa
Financial gain
The abuse from the female rat is and can be worse than the male rats
The manipulation financial gain marriage visa is learnt ftom early years
She will not go away even years later they will pop up in a message
U have to cut ties seriously
Before she puts u under her control
It's money its visa it's all they care off
Please block her everywhere u need to do this for your own sanity
They never stop and will use you for everything she can squeeze out off you
They are liars cheaters theives
And nothing will stop them only YOU
Iv seen these female rats at work they are as ruthless as their Tunisian male rats!!!
Take advice block delete!

 

[Moonshine]

With that being said… according to some of the stories on here, you being a doctor she will take you for all the money you have. Claiming abuse, and lying about everything making you look bad. There are men away from Tunisia that have done this with the women they hook…you know how bad that looks (at least it’s the way they want it to look) but imagine a woman claiming physical abuse.. seriously they will do anything to get a visa and money!

She will tarnish your good reputation as doctor be warned please

 

[Sabrina]

Yes @Sabrina If i had got her in the UK and in the future maybe she would have reported physical abuse, I would have probably gotten laid off from my job and not to mention how it would have tarnished my image, well i guess i dodged a bullet quite early haha!

You better believe you did!!! Happy you came here to find some truth because male rat or female rat they have really messed people up and the sad part is your heart is in it but they are in it for their own agenda, they never feel the hurt you did! But karma has a way of coming back to them. If a woman from your country asks you for money you will be able to know if she really really needs it, but chances are they will not ask!

 

[Zainab92]

I am a 25-year-old doctor living in the UK. A year and a half ago (July 2021), I was on vacation in Tunisia and I met a girl lets call her "Z". She was 20 years old, a humanities student and we struck up a conversation while I was there. We exchanged contact information and continued to talk after I returned home.
At first, I was just enjoying getting to know her. We would talk for hours on end and make video calls. She seemed genuinely interested in me and I was starting to develop feelings for her. After about a month, Z told me she loved me and I was over the moon.
But things started to change soon after that. She told me that her internet was over and asked me for money to pay for it. I didn't think much of it at the time and I sent her the money. Then she started asking for gifts and said she wanted to meet in person. She even asked me to apply for her visa so she could come to the UK.
She was very affectionate with me, saying that she loved me and talking about our future together. She even told her family about me, but not her father. She kept asking for more and more money and wanted to get married as soon as possible. I was getting suspicious but couldn't bring myself to believe that she was just using me.
But then in November 2022, she blocked me. I was confused and didn't know what had happened. After a few weeks, she unblocked me and started talking to me again but she was cold and distant. She told me that if I didn't marry her, she would not like to talk to me and would marry someone else. I felt trapped and didn't know what to do.
I couldn't understand how someone I had grown to care for could do this to me. I felt betrayed and devastated. I couldn't believe that I had let myself fall for someone who was only using me for financial gain and using the marriage as a way to come to the UK.
I was confused and didn't know what to do. Our relationship had been on and off for weeks, and I was unsure if I should continue to try and make it work or if I should move on. I felt like I was being played and I didn't want to be a part of it anymore.
Since then, I haven't responded to any of her messages. I thought that since it's been two months, she would eventually just go away. But let me tell you, Z still messages me once in a while. Sometimes she curses me and calls me a coward, and other times she just says sorry and sends cute texts. Although I have made my mind not to talk to her, I would like to hear any advice you may have. Thanks for reading this far

SHE IS LIKE MEN THERE....SAME THING,SAME STORY ALWAYS!!! PLEASE TELL HER " 3ASBA" IT MEANING IN DERJA F*** OFF!!! TUNISIAN WOMEN ARE RATS LIKE THEIR MEN.
PLEASE LISTEN TO ME‍

 

[Zainab92]

SHE IS LIKE MEN THERE....SAME THING,SAME STORY ALWAYS!!! PLEASE TELL HER " 3ASBA" IT MEANING IN DERJA F*** OFF!!! TUNISIAN WOMEN ARE RATS LIKE THEIR MEN.
PLEASE LISTEN TO ME‍

BLOCK HER NOW!!

 

[Aisha1]

Most Tunisian women expect money from fiancé or husband… even boyfriend. They can honestly be in love with the man and still expect him to pay and take care of her, this is what is taught to women from a young age. So at first I just think she wants to get engaged and be with you in uk, but when you mention the blocking you for long time and then acting distant only tells me she is a bad woman for you. She will get you in trouble because she is only involved with herself and getting what she wants. If I’m the future you meet and fall in love with arab woman it’s true we expect the man to pay, but acting immature is unacceptable. If she loved you she would ask you move to Tunisia and work if you can until you and her decide on another path and absolutely never block you. She is 20, still child. You need to close that book and give it away. She deserves Tunisian husband, let her block him and see if he pays for internet…

 

[Moonshine]

Most Tunisian women expect money from fiancé or husband… even boyfriend. They can honestly be in love with the man and still expect him to pay and take care of her, this is what is taught to women from a young age. So at first I just think she wants to get engaged and be with you in uk, but when you mention the blocking you for long time and then acting distant only tells me she is a bad woman for you. She will get you in trouble because she is only involved with herself and getting what she wants. If I’m the future you meet and fall in love with arab woman it’s true we expect the man to pay, but acting immature is unacceptable. If she loved you she would ask you move to Tunisia and work if you can until you and her decide on another path and absolutely never block you. She is 20, still child. You need to close that book and give it away. She deserves Tunisian husband, let her block him and see if he pays for internet…

I put laughing emoji
As u said let Tunisian man pay Internet after she blocked him
Well a Tunisian man rat blocks western women snd then will say pay my Internet
Hahaha

 

[Sabrina]

I put laughing emoji
As u said let Tunisian man pay Internet after she blocked him
Well a Tunisian man rat blocks western women snd then will say pay my Internet
Hahaha

shit for brains

 

[Astarisborn]

BLOCK HER NOW!!

There are female rats posted on here too, the same story as the male rats
Same tactics, yes decent traditional Arab women expect their men to pay for them and certainly
would not take a rat the way they are haha, but the
same tactics used whether she is young or not.
Once they know a rat has a bad reputation who will want this nothing rat, but might take him on
after he has scammed a western victim, oh yes he is good then right?
Some female rats are in on it, the rat who says his sister loves you
could be the wife or the cousin he is promised to.
The ex-rat said Tunisian women are materialistic expecting all
from the Tunisian man, and to add he said all her family
will move in with her putting his own women down.
This rat I had had nothing stink breath not only that but a filthy mouth to go with it, bad ugly teeth, a dwarf, no education or skills
dumb as he could be and no money, ugly cannot even describe what he is inside and out, but loved to pick me apart
drunk most of the time, this rat probably has chronic liver disease
smoke like a pack a day and probably has parasites
from all the rotten tuna and eggs left out
but yeah he is perfect? his past and life tells a different story from what the rat portrays
on social media
the only thing he could say I was was FAT, heck I was chubby not obese
but that's nothing compared to all the bad this rat was.

mental health issues all throughout, but their main problem is lack of money
but he would not work an honest job, citing the poor economy blah blah
look like he was a product of inbreeding the VILLAGE IDIOT, sorry but its true
I mean its a scientific fact that marrying your first cousin causes defect in the offspring
I know its common in their culture, but let's not be ignorant about the facts
though, one in four suffer from medical conditions and it scars them for life!
and if you think I am nasty you should have heard the words they said about me.

To me all the rats female or male are materialistic
yet I was called selfish and materialistic ha-ha
Like after all I did, and the nerve to say that, its quite hilarious.
If it wasn't me who was it then?
This rat family I was with seem to forget the holiday I took them on
or that I really came for real but these ignorant kind do not have the kind
heart we had and have an AGENDA to use and abuse you after their fake affections and words
I don't have to be a doormat and be emotionally abused by a rat to get what he wants
One thing I am certainly not is materialistic but hey they have a simple
small mind, realistic outcomes for this rat was that
he would never had made it here, they think
we have it easy here haha let me tell you its the opposite.
We work hard for our money, nothing the rats would know anything about
well they work hard on their scamming and what tactics work for the next victim
Sorry I am on a rant but avoid this kind like the plague

 

[Rubee]

I am a 25-year-old doctor living in the UK. A year and a half ago (July 2021), I was on vacation in Tunisia and I met a girl lets call her "Z". She was 20 years old, a humanities student and we struck up a conversation while I was there. We exchanged contact information and continued to talk after I returned home.
At first, I was just enjoying getting to know her. We would talk for hours on end and make video calls. She seemed genuinely interested in me and I was starting to develop feelings for her. After about a month, Z told me she loved me and I was over the moon.
But things started to change soon after that. She told me that her internet was over and asked me for money to pay for it. I didn't think much of it at the time and I sent her the money. Then she started asking for gifts and said she wanted to meet in person. She even asked me to apply for her visa so she could come to the UK.
She was very affectionate with me, saying that she loved me and talking about our future together. She even told her family about me, but not her father. She kept asking for more and more money and wanted to get married as soon as possible. I was getting suspicious but couldn't bring myself to believe that she was just using me.
But then in November 2022, she blocked me. I was confused and didn't know what had happened. After a few weeks, she unblocked me and started talking to me again but she was cold and distant. She told me that if I didn't marry her, she would not like to talk to me and would marry someone else. I felt trapped and didn't know what to do.
I couldn't understand how someone I had grown to care for could do this to me. I felt betrayed and devastated. I couldn't believe that I had let myself fall for someone who was only using me for financial gain and using the marriage as a way to come to the UK.
I was confused and didn't know what to do. Our relationship had been on and off for weeks, and I was unsure if I should continue to try and make it work or if I should move on. I felt like I was being played and I didn't want to be a part of it anymore.
Since then, I haven't responded to any of her messages. I thought that since it's been two months, she would eventually just go away. But let me tell you, Z still messages me once in a while. Sometimes she curses me and calls me a coward, and other times she just says sorry and sends cute texts. Although I have made my mind not to talk to her, I would like to hear any advice you may have. Thanks for reading this farSo

I am a 25-year-old doctor living in the UK. A year and a half ago (July 2021), I was on vacation in Tunisia and I met a girl lets call her "Z". She was 20 years old, a humanities student and we struck up a conversation while I was there. We exchanged contact information and continued to talk after I returned home.
At first, I was just enjoying getting to know her. We would talk for hours on end and make video calls. She seemed genuinely interested in me and I was starting to develop feelings for her. After about a month, Z told me she loved me and I was over the moon.
But things started to change soon after that. She told me that her internet was over and asked me for money to pay for it. I didn't think much of it at the time and I sent her the money. Then she started asking for gifts and said she wanted to meet in person. She even asked me to apply for her visa so she could come to the UK.
She was very affectionate with me, saying that she loved me and talking about our future together. She even told her family about me, but not her father. She kept asking for more and more money and wanted to get married as soon as possible. I was getting suspicious but couldn't bring myself to believe that she was just using me.
But then in November 2022, she blocked me. I was confused and didn't know what had happened. After a few weeks, she unblocked me and started talking to me again but she was cold and distant. She told me that if I didn't marry her, she would not like to talk to me and would marry someone else. I felt trapped and didn't know what to do.
I couldn't understand how someone I had grown to care for could do this to me. I felt betrayed and devastated. I couldn't believe that I had let myself fall for someone who was only using me for financial gain and using the marriage as a way to come to the UK.
I was confused and didn't know what to do. Our relationship had been on and off for weeks, and I was unsure if I should continue to try and make it work or if I should move on. I felt like I was being played and I didn't want to be a part of it anymore.
Since then, I haven't responded to any of her messages. I thought that since it's been two months, she would eventually just go away. But let me tell you, Z still messages me once in a while. Sometimes she curses me and calls me a coward, and other times she just says sorry and sends cute texts. Although I have made my mind not to talk to her, I would like to hear any advice you may have. Thanks for reading this far

Yup. she is a rat !

 

[Sabrina]

There are female rats posted on here too, the same story as the male rats
Same tactics, yes decent traditional Arab women expect their men to pay for them and certainly
would not take a rat the way they are haha, but the
same tactics used whether she is young or not.
Once they know a rat has a bad reputation who will want this nothing rat, but might take him on
after he has scammed a western victim, oh yes he is good then right?
Some female rats are in on it, the rat who says his sister loves you
could be the wife or the cousin he is promised to.
The ex-rat said Tunisian women are materialistic expecting all
from the Tunisian man, and to add he said all her family
will move in with her putting his own women down.
This rat I had had nothing stink breath not only that but a filthy mouth to go with it, bad ugly teeth, a dwarf, no education or skills
dumb as he could be and no money, ugly cannot even describe what he is inside and out, but loved to pick me apart
drunk most of the time, this rat probably has chronic liver disease
smoke like a pack a day and probably has parasites
from all the rotten tuna and eggs left out
but yeah he is perfect? his past and life tells a different story from what the rat portrays
on social media
the only thing he could say I was was FAT, heck I was chubby not obese
but that's nothing compared to all the bad this rat was.

mental health issues all throughout, but their main problem is lack of money
but he would not work an honest job, citing the poor economy blah blah
look like he was a product of inbreeding the VILLAGE IDIOT, sorry but its true
I mean its a scientific fact that marrying your first cousin causes defect in the offspring
I know its common in their culture, but let's not be ignorant about the facts
though, one in four suffer from medical conditions and it scars them for life!
and if you think I am nasty you should have heard the words they said about me.

To me all the rats female or male are materialistic
yet I was called selfish and materialistic ha-ha
Like after all I did, and the nerve to say that, its quite hilarious.
If it wasn't me who was it then?
This rat family I was with seem to forget the holiday I took them on
or that I really came for real but these ignorant kind do not have the kind
heart we had and have an AGENDA to use and abuse you after their fake affections and words
I don't have to be a doormat and be emotionally abused by a rat to get what he wants
One thing I am certainly not is materialistic but hey they have a simple
small mind, realistic outcomes for this rat was that
he would never had made it here, they think
we have it easy here haha let me tell you its the opposite.
We work hard for our money, nothing the rats would know anything about
well they work hard on their scamming and what tactics work for the next victim
Sorry I am on a rant but avoid this kind like the plague

Very strange how they all say f**k your money and f**k you, that’s all you care about is your money… this is when we don’t give in to their whims! I simply cared about paying my bills and not throwing my money away..especially on him!

 

[Astarisborn]

Very strange how they all say f**k your money and f**k you, that’s all you care about is your money… this is when we don’t give in to their whims! I simply cared about paying my bills and not throwing my money away..especially on him!

Like who the hell do they think they are, some king or prince to expect everyone to cater to them??
If he were a prince or king he would be something way better than he was.
I mean it gets old that crap, certainly the rat's parents never held him accountable for his actions.
I may have been fat a few years older than the rat, but the way they talk like I was the lowliest of the low in the end
and to expect no one better to have me?
When in fact it was the rat lucky to have a beautiful kind woman like me, but the rats
have high expectations for the nothing they are, when they lack in so much
they take out their insecurities on the person that did nothing but help them.
And that is on them by the way, nothing to do with us.
Sad when all a poor rat can think about is money, its like their character is wrapped up in delusions
of grandeur, but when you are a rat with nothing, you can't do anything with that anyways
They don't care about the process, just the results in fact they are never part of the process
Its like you are responsible for the best result?
Like would you work for a boss who never paid you, I mean if we are talking
about conditional relationships where is the pay off here?
Especially taking mistreatment and abuse from a rat who was asking me to help him
its not like he had no feet and arms and was incapable of working for a living?
No dignity and no shame
I mean its disrespectful to be treated in such a inhumane way so why or why would
I do anything for the ungrateful rat!
I was sure way better than he ever had and will ever have.
NO one can deal with this rat I had, even to have a civil conversation is like walking
on eggshells.
So in the end you get what you give ratty! NOTHING

 

[Sabrina]

Like who the hell do they think they are, some king or prince to expect everyone to cater to them??
If he were a prince or king he would be something way better than he was.
I mean it gets old that crap, certainly the rat's parents never held him accountable for his actions.
I may have been fat a few years older than the rat, but the way they talk like I was the lowliest of the low in the end
and to expect no one better to have me?
When in fact it was the rat lucky to have a beautiful kind woman like me, but the rats
have high expectations for the nothing they are, when they lack in so much
they take out their insecurities on the person that did nothing but help them.
And that is on them by the way, nothing to do with us.
Sad when all a poor rat can think about is money, its like their character is wrapped up in delusions
of grandeur, but when you are a rat with nothing, you can't do anything with that anyways
They don't care about the process, just the results in fact they are never part of the process
Its like you are responsible for the best result?
Like would you work for a boss who never paid you, I mean if we are talking
about conditional relationships where is the pay off here?
Especially taking mistreatment and abuse from a rat who was asking me to help him
its not like he had no feet and arms and was incapable of working for a living?
No dignity and no shame
I mean its disrespectful to be treated in such a inhumane way so why or why would
I do anything for the ungrateful rat!
I was sure way better than he ever had and will ever have.
NO one can deal with this rat I had, even to have a civil conversation is like walking
on eggshells.
So in the end you get what you give ratty! NOTHING

The fact that the family talks about you is disgraceful! And there is no “fat” healthy more like it. My rats brother gf was healthy, if you look at my rats mom, sister, aunts they were all healthy so where is the room for anyone to talk about someone’s size? What does that have to do with the person?? I’m sure when you were with him they spoke about you being beautiful, the minute you let go or cut his funds here comes the insults. He will never count to anything he may as well be a beggar on the street, I would see that in hammamet and I remember my rat saying “ oh he don’t need any money!?! Which is worse the beggars that we were with or the one on the street? I say ours because with the begging came the lies! I would rather give to the guy on the street than any of these rats! By the way our rats look pretty “heavy “also with all the bread and beer so there. And it’s not pretty on them! Sorry sloths

 

[Etoyoc]

I am a 25-year-old doctor living in the UK ... Although I have made my mind not to talk to her, I would like to hear any advice you may have. Thanks for reading this far

Dating a tunisian woman is especially complicated.

1) At the age of 20 she is, as somone wrote, quite young. It is adequate to compare a 20 year old tunisian to a 15-16 year old english girl. At this age, girls will try out their value and have, today, various online relationships. After a while, or when it doesn't devlop fast enough it will become boring or be considered as a playful relationship that nobody takes serious. This actually, how things work out with tunisian boys, too. The mention of "if we do not marry fast, I will..." is an indicator that she doubt your real intention to marry her. After all, the relationship was going on for some time already. Please note that things usually happen in Tunisia quite fast - knowing someone for more than a year at least calls for some sort of engagement and some gifts (you will be almost exclusively valued by your financial power - by everyone involved, eg. family and friends. The reason for that is in case of a divorce, the women usually has to return to the family home, a remarriage is very difficult because she is "damaged good", so it is very understandeable that the family makes sure the husband has financial means to remove one typical obstacle to a working marriage).
It is different when the man has no financial means, because in this case, she will wait for some time and watch how things will evolve.

2) Women indeed have the expectation that the man takes care of her, but even more, it is enshrined in the tunisian law. Dating a tunisian woman will be, independent how serious she is, quite expensive - without any guarantee that you will see a "return of investment". In this regard, consider dating only when you have some "spare" money that you are willing to put into the relationship.

3) Nonwithstanding the above, it is always possible that you will hit a tunisian girl who just conducts business on your behalf, though it is considerably less likely with women than with men and even less likely when she has a certain grade of education.

I did not read whether or not you went to tunisia to meet her in person - which would absoluteley be required if you were serious about her. On that meeting, you also could go to the family and tell them about your plans of marrying her - and the timeframe in which you want to achieve it, eg. 1-2 years or such. Most likely you will meet some resistance or a least reservation, but that is normal as the (internal) discussions about it will take place in the weeks and months to come. In any case, it would be good to have someone on your side, eg. a brother or uncle, or someone - which you will meet, however, only when you go to Tunisia.
Please note also, that you are on your own on this occasion - the girl will not take place in the discussion und most probably not even be near it.

 

[Sabrina]

Dating a tunisian woman is especially complicated.

1) At the age of 20 she is, as somone wrote, quite young. It is adequate to compare a 20 year old tunisian to a 15-16 year old english girl. At this age, girls will try out their value and have, today, various online relationships. After a while, or when it doesn't devlop fast enough it will become boring or be considered as a playful relationship that nobody takes serious. This actually, how things work out with tunisian boys, too. The mention of "if we do not marry fast, I will..." is an indicator that she doubt your real intention to marry her. After all, the relationship was going on for some time already. Please note that things usually happen in Tunisia quite fast - knowing someone for more than a year at least calls for some sort of engagement and some gifts (you will be almost exclusively valued by your financial power - by everyone involved, eg. family and friends. The reason for that is in case of a divorce, the women usually has to return to the family home, a remarriage is very difficult because she is "damaged good", so it is very understandeable that the family makes sure the husband has financial means to remove one typical obstacle to a working marriage).
It is different when the man has no financial means, because in this case, she will wait for some time and watch how things will evolve.

2) Women indeed have the expectation that the man takes care of her, but even more, it is enshrined in the tunisian law. Dating a tunisian woman will be, independent how serious she is, quite expensive - without any guarantee that you will see a "return of investment". In this regard, consider dating only when you have some "spare" money that you are willing to put into the relationship.

3) Nonwithstanding the above, it is always possible that you will hit a tunisian girl who just conducts business on your behalf, though it is considerably less likely with women than with men and even less likely when she has a certain grade of education.

I did not read whether or not you went to tunisia to meet her in person - which would absoluteley be required if you were serious about her. On that meeting, you also could go to the family and tell them about your plans of marrying her - and the timeframe in which you want to achieve it, eg. 1-2 years or such. Most likely you will meet some resistance or a least reservation, but that is normal as the (internal) discussions about it will take place in the weeks and months to come. In any case, it would be good to have someone on your side, eg. a brother or uncle, or someone - which you will meet, however, only when you go to Tunisia.
Please note also, that you are on your own on this occasion - the girl will not take place in the discussion und most probably not even be near it.

Well he met her when he was on vacation in Tunisia and they started talking and when he returned home they continued. Maybe it is the difference in the culture, me from US and him even from UK we do not think it is normal in a week or a month to say I love you…and to rush things like marriage! It makes us think RUN FAST! And the money and gifts so soon after meeting even with the guys…this is really not normal behavior in our eyes. And then she went as far as to block him..games, why to see if he would be hurt by this? In my eyes she was just a female rat, but that’s my opinion and advice to him. She has alot to gain from him and he has alot to lose. So maybe she should be looking to marry someone in her own culture. Because this to us is not normal behavior

 

[Astarisborn]

Well he met her when he was on vacation in Tunisia and they started talking and when he returned home they continued. Maybe it is the difference in the culture, me from US and him even from UK we do not think it is normal in a week or a month to say I love you…and to rush things like marriage! It makes us think RUN FAST! And the money and gifts so soon after meeting even with the guys…this is really not normal behavior in our eyes. And then she went as far as to block him..games, why to see if he would be hurt by this? In my eyes she was just a female rat, but that’s my opinion and advice to him. She has alot to gain from him and he has alot to lose. So maybe she should be looking to marry someone in her own culture. Because this to us is not normal behavior

She kept asking for more and more money, then the block and unblock
Calling him a coward but then sending cute texts after ghosting him for a bit
Sounds like she knew exactly what he represented and rushed to get it
And most definitely has done this before, oh look a doctor I can use
him to get what I want, professes her love so quickly
All from the rat book, there are female rats posted on here
for a reason.
Using one's culture to manipulate someone is what rats do.
@realisticadam you know your truth and you know deep down
something is wrong or you would never be on here to question this
Would it not be better for you to know someone in your own
country where at least if it did not work out you could easily leave the situation.
It's very complex and draining your finances and mental health to deal
with all a rat does.
You owe it to yourself to make yourself a priority and never let anyone abuse you financially
or emotionally!

 

[Aisha1]

Well he met her when he was on vacation in Tunisia and they started talking and when he returned home they continued. Maybe it is the difference in the culture, me from US and him even from UK we do not think it is normal in a week or a month to say I love you…and to rush things like marriage! It makes us think RUN FAST! And the money and gifts so soon after meeting even with the guys…this is really not normal behavior in our eyes. And then she went as far as to block him..games, why to see if he would be hurt by this? In my eyes she was just a female rat, but that’s my opinion and advice to him. She has alot to gain from him and he has alot to lose. So maybe she should be looking to marry someone in her own culture. Because this to us is not normal behavior

I’ll say honestly we do things fast in arab culture. When I met my husband both knew after about 2 weeks we wanted marriage and children as soon as possible…. Then the talks started and yes I 100 percent started seeing him as my provider once he took on responsibility for me as girlfriend,fiancé and wife. But that being said I love him and it’s a different feeling then just using, we mutually are good with it, when Arab man loves woman he wants to pay for her and provide, it’s part of his love and what makes him feel like man, hope that makes sense

 

[Astarisborn]

I’ll say honestly we do things fast in arab culture. When I met my husband both knew after about 2 weeks we wanted marriage and children as soon as possible…. Then the talks started and yes I 100 percent started seeing him as my provider once he took on responsibility for me as girlfriend,fiancé and wife. But that being said I love him and it’s a different feeling then just using, we mutually are good with it, when Arab man loves woman he wants to pay for her and provide, it’s part of his love and what makes him feel like man, hope that makes sense

well Tunisian love rats use women/men whomever to get what they want
while faking their love when their real intention was to take them for all they can
when ANY woman marries a real man, he looks after and provides for her
or at least equal reciprocation
so rats go up against their own culture, to be honest they can't even look after themselves
let alone a wife
a real man works and provides for his family PERIOD so not only are they not real men
who will do any job on their own, they ask the women to provide all what PRIDE IS there
in a man like that?

 

[Sabrina]

I’ll say honestly we do things fast in arab culture. When I met my husband both knew after about 2 weeks we wanted marriage and children as soon as possible…. Then the talks started and yes I 100 percent started seeing him as my provider once he took on responsibility for me as girlfriend,fiancé and wife. But that being said I love him and it’s a different feeling then just using, we mutually are good with it, when Arab man loves woman he wants to pay for her and provide, it’s part of his love and what makes him feel like man, hope that makes sense

Well it kinda makes sense because of your culture but this female acted childish blocking him. If it’s love at first sight I understand but rare. And it may be me but I never was dependent or accepted anything from a man but that’s me I mean I would let them buy dinner and some would give me gifts but I never expected it. Just the difference in the culture. But one thing for sure is the guys certainly are not raised that way ANYWHERE and if they are they will be very disappointed it’s just not normal for a woman to pay or even be asked for anything! Until I met this monkey nobody asked me for anything , men gave without me expecting or asking . But I understand what you are saying but I still think she was a rat. That being said I know you are an independent woman and it’s the way it is, and it’s wonderful that you two found each other! I think it’s great there are so many times I want that but I’m set in my own ways.. an old maid per say.. I should’ve married my high school sweetheart, been engaged before a couple times knowing I wouldn’t go thru I’m scared of marriage!

 

[Astarisborn]

how anyone cannot see it for what it is nowadays and not question it??
you meet someone on holiday and then as soon as you get back
you have many requests for money
How many online romances and holiday romances really work out?
maybe 1 percent in the end?
I am sure there are a few happy stories but let's be realistic
despite considering her culture, why doesn't she consider the culture
she wants to move to??
does that seem right you can say once to send for her internet
but several times and then being cut off and blocked
and then messed with
how can anyone say well that is the culture
no it isn't its greed
if this is the way it starts in the beginning begging for money
then where does it end???
its not about love its about MONEY
there are female and male rats out there looking for an opportunity
with foreigners because it can't work out with their own and WHY is that?
counting on rushing into marriage before
the other has time to even think about it