Due To His Religion - No Music Allowed

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In Ireland the Angelous is marked Three times a day on the Radio and TV. 9 bells, with a pause after each three. It’s a moment of reflection and everything falls silent at 6am, 12 and 6pm in the evening. Likewise people stop talking and listen or say a brief prayer. I like it, not from a religious perspective, but just to take a moment to pause.
 

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In Ireland the Angelous is marked Three times a day on the Radio and TV. 9 bells, with a pause after each three. It’s a moment of reflection and everything falls silent at 6am, 12 and 6pm in the evening. Likewise people stop talking and listen or say a brief prayer. I like it, not from a religious perspective, but just to take a moment to pause.
I’ve never heard of this, Laura....how fascinating!
I’m gonna look for that on Google....my education for today :)

I guess I just found it strange with my rat, as he was not practicing and his behaviours were completely haram. It was not something that bothered me, I was just curious as to why :)
 

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My rat was a musician, so there was never a ban on music, thank God, as I have music playing literally 24/7!

Anyway, my rat did not observe Ramadan, he did not go to mosque, but five times a day, literally the very second Call to Prayer started, everything had to be switched off....music, the TV etc.....so why was this?
Why did we have to listen when he was not practising? :confused:

I loved listening to Call to Prayer, so it was not an issue, but why?

He said it was to show respect, but surely this is hypocritical, beings as he neither prayed nor fasted :confused:
Is this the norm?
Maybe so the neighbours didn’t know he wasn’t praying??
 

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My rats brothers didn’t want to smoke in front of their dad out of respect or something. They were hiding the sigarets and having sneaky smokes on top of the roof, the same way as I did when I was 15 and I thought my parents didn’t know that I was smoking.
 

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I’ve never heard of this, Laura....how fascinating!
I’m gonna look for that on Google....my education for today :)

I guess I just found it strange with my rat, as he was not practicing and his behaviours were completely haram. It was not something that bothered me, I was just curious as to why :)
No surprise here,it’s called being a hypocritical bastard....something they’re good at
 

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My rats brothers didn’t want to smoke in front of their dad out of respect or something. They were hiding the sigarets and having sneaky smokes on top of the roof, the same way as I did when I was 15 and I thought my parents didn’t know that I was smoking.
My rat never smoked in front of his father either. Their ideas of respect are crazy. His father used to beat all of the kids and even lock them out of the house. They show this brutal man huge respect. Then they play this bezness garbage, steal from innocent women from all over the world and feel nothing guilty about doing it! Some weird, messed up, mentally deranged idiots! Mine never went to the mosque. His dad did frequently. Ramadan day time was like a torture session, but then come sundown, it was like anything goes! I will never understand a lot of what I saw, nor do I care to! I believe you are to be kind and respectful to everybody...no lying, cheating, or using people! Why don’t these guys get it? What is fundamentally wrong with them that they can be so bad?
 

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My rat never smoked in front of his father either. Their ideas of respect are crazy. His father used to beat all of the kids and even lock them out of the house. They show this brutal man huge respect. Then they play this bezness garbage, steal from innocent women from all over the world and feel nothing guilty about doing it! Some weird, messed up, mentally deranged idiots! Mine never went to the mosque. His dad did frequently. Ramadan day time was like a torture session, but then come sundown, it was like anything goes! I will never understand a lot of what I saw, nor do I care to! I believe you are to be kind and respectful to everybody...no lying, cheating, or using people! Why don’t these guys get it? What is fundamentally wrong with them that they can be so bad?
biggest hypocrites. - don't smoke nor drink in my presence but you can bring women to sleep and take money from them
 

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My rat never smoked in front of his father either. Their ideas of respect are crazy. His father used to beat all of the kids and even lock them out of the house. They show this brutal man huge respect. Then they play this bezness garbage, steal from innocent women from all over the world and feel nothing guilty about doing it! Some weird, messed up, mentally deranged idiots! Mine never went to the mosque. His dad did frequently. Ramadan day time was like a torture session, but then come sundown, it was like anything goes! I will never understand a lot of what I saw, nor do I care to! I believe you are to be kind and respectful to everybody...no lying, cheating, or using people! Why don’t these guys get it? What is fundamentally wrong with them that they can be so bad?
When a child is beaten, he has respect that is driven by fear. It’s not respect out of admiration. We learn about this in my church. The priest at my church here in Vancouver talks about the effects on children and encourages family counselling.
This fear channels down to how the child will parent his children. So these rats will beat their kids and wife if that is how they were raised. Only a few will change that way on their own. The laws help, but they really need to be taught the right way to live, with respect, not fear.
The Tunisians don’t care to break this cycle because it will be admitting they have been living wrong, probably for centuries.
 

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They want to compare their behaviors to western countries and call us infidels for the very same things they are doing, only they are worse, so I think that would make them the infidels :confused:
Most of what they do to us is illegal in our countries. Yes, they are the infidels. Dirty and smelly too, I’m told.
 

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Yea no kidding. I am surprised that bezness is even conducted on such a large scale in a muslim country without consequences.
They can throw their religion at us all they want but we all know rats only follow the bezness religion.
They hide behind their birth faith. Like terrorists and cults. I beleive they are a collective. They all know if or know each other. I think the Beznes extends far from each family. The population is not that big and the good Muslims don’t live on their phones in coffee shops. I met a Tunisian man at a fund raiser in New York a while back who moved his family to the US so his disabled son could get treatment. This man is wealthy and he said he married his Tunisian wife when he was 25. He’s lived in the US for 23 years. He seemed a nice man. He knows of the scams. I didn’t get too into it with him. It was a formal affair. But he said young Tunisians are desperate. They want a new country and they are too lazy to do the work themselves. For all I know he is a liar, but he seemed honest and he donated big.
But, you know, I’m pretty clueless, but my brother was with me and he said he thought the old Tunisian guy was flirting with me. So I guess that part is not beznes specific.
 

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When a child is beaten, he has respect that is driven by fear. It’s not respect out of admiration. We learn about this in my church. The priest at my church here in Vancouver talks about the effects on children and encourages family counselling.
This fear channels down to how the child will parent his children. So these rats will beat their kids and wife if that is how they were raised. Only a few will change that way on their own. The laws help, but they really need to be taught the right way to live, with respect, not fear.
The Tunisians don’t care to break this cycle because it will be admitting they have been living wrong, probably for centuries.
This priest needs to stress that not all abused children grow up to repeat the cycle....his message is wrong, and to those of us that had extremely abusive childhoods, it’s very upsetting and judgemental.

Sure, some abused kids will repeat the cycle, in a country as backwards as Tunisia, whereby violence is the norm in the majority of households....of course they will repeat the cycle, they think it’s normal, they see no different.

For us in developed, civilised countries, as we grow, we become aware that our living conditions are not normal. I saw this in friends houses, and when we lived with our aunt, uncles and cousins.

Us kids have grown up to become good, hardworking people, we are obsessively determined to keep our children safe, hence my refusal to take mine to Tunisia after I’d known him for long enough to warrant an introduction.

My boys are adored, I love them more than words, I would never harm a hair on their heads....and God help anyone else that did.
It was the terror he inflicted on my kids that led to my betrayal of Houssem, I reported him everywhere, yet I never had for his assaults on me, nor his hacking our bank account etc.

In our countries, most abused kids do not repeat the cycle....we choose to go the other way, we never want our kids to suffer as we did...so those judgements hurt.

With regards to respect, I have zero respect for my mother, my step father or Houssem....no abuser should ever be given respect. No level of fear, then or now, will ever make me respect this trash.
 

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This priest needs to stress that not all abused children grow up to repeat the cycle....his message is wrong, and to those of us that had extremely abusive childhoods, it’s very upsetting and judgemental.

Sure, some abused kids will repeat the cycle, in a country as backwards as Tunisia, whereby violence is the norm in the majority of households....of course they will repeat the cycle, they think it’s normal, they see no different.

For us in developed, civilised countries, as we grow, we become aware that our living conditions are not normal. I saw this in friends houses, and when we lived with our aunt, uncles and cousins.

Us kids have grown up to become good, hardworking people, we are obsessively determined to keep our children safe, hence my refusal to take mine to Tunisia after I’d known him for long enough to warrant an introduction.

My boys are adored, I love them more than words, I would never harm a hair on their heads....and God help anyone else that did.
It was the terror he inflicted on my kids that led to my betrayal of Houssem, I reported him everywhere, yet I never had for his assaults on me, nor his hacking our bank account etc.

In our countries, most abused kids do not repeat the cycle....we choose to go the other way, we never want our kids to suffer as we did...so those judgements hurt.

With regards to respect, I have zero respect for my mother, my step father or Houssem....no abuser should ever be given respect. No level of fear, then or now, will ever make me respect this trash.
No, I didn’t mean every kid would. Some do break free of the cycle. You did. I know that. Some get counselling or have other people in their life a models who are kind, but in a place where it is common, it is more likely. I think what the preist is trying to do is get people in abusive homes into counselling.
I know you are a good example of a child who overcame abuse. As a woman too.
I am in Canada, Vancouver. There are a lot of cultures in my church. So maybe we have a local problem? My priest in PA is not as aggressive. It’s a college town, so he’s just happy some young people show up to mass.
 

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This priest needs to stress that not all abused children grow up to repeat the cycle....his message is wrong, and to those of us that had extremely abusive childhoods, it’s very upsetting and judgemental.

Sure, some abused kids will repeat the cycle, in a country as backwards as Tunisia, whereby violence is the norm in the majority of households....of course they will repeat the cycle, they think it’s normal, they see no different.

For us in developed, civilised countries, as we grow, we become aware that our living conditions are not normal. I saw this in friends houses, and when we lived with our aunt, uncles and cousins.

Us kids have grown up to become good, hardworking people, we are obsessively determined to keep our children safe, hence my refusal to take mine to Tunisia after I’d known him for long enough to warrant an introduction.

My boys are adored, I love them more than words, I would never harm a hair on their heads....and God help anyone else that did.
It was the terror he inflicted on my kids that led to my betrayal of Houssem, I reported him everywhere, yet I never had for his assaults on me, nor his hacking our bank account etc.

In our countries, most abused kids do not repeat the cycle....we choose to go the other way, we never want our kids to suffer as we did...so those judgements hurt.

With regards to respect, I have zero respect for my mother, my step father or Houssem....no abuser should ever be given respect. No level of fear, then or now, will ever make me respect this trash.
Where I grew up, "if you can't learn you feel" "children learn what they live", but I taught my son to never ever hit a woman, just walk away. He is now a very respectful son, husband and father. You see his father was an abusive man and my son had seen enough to never repeat that cycle when he became a man. Too bad these rats' mothers don't have a clue outside their world. :(
My two daughters: they both became involved with men who looked just like their father and same abusive streak (help me Lord:() until the eldest broke the cycle and has started her new life living overseas.;) The other daughter:rolleyes: unfortunately became an abusive, toxic person with a narcissistic personality:Cry:. She wears a mask during the day (she's successful in her business) and the other mask when nobody's looking "Mr. Hyde". (sigh) :confused: So I play the protective gran.
I was taught you judge each case on its merits. Not every family is alike. Today, outside of my job, I aid in mentoring young girls from the ages of 9 through to high school assisting them to become respectable women with strong life skills and a contributing person to society. :)Two are now attending college with three on their way.:) What rat's family can top that!
 
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