Due To His Religion - No Music Allowed

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  1. Epiphany

    Epiphany Well-Known Member

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    Yea no kidding. I am surprised that bezness is even conducted on such a large scale in a muslim country without consequences.
    They can throw their religion at us all they want but we all know rats only follow the bezness religion.
     
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    They hide behind their birth faith. Like terrorists and cults. I beleive they are a collective. They all know if or know each other. I think the Beznes extends far from each family. The population is not that big and the good Muslims don’t live on their phones in coffee shops. I met a Tunisian man at a fund raiser in New York a while back who moved his family to the US so his disabled son could get treatment. This man is wealthy and he said he married his Tunisian wife when he was 25. He’s lived in the US for 23 years. He seemed a nice man. He knows of the scams. I didn’t get too into it with him. It was a formal affair. But he said young Tunisians are desperate. They want a new country and they are too lazy to do the work themselves. For all I know he is a liar, but he seemed honest and he donated big.
    But, you know, I’m pretty clueless, but my brother was with me and he said he thought the old Tunisian guy was flirting with me. So I guess that part is not beznes specific.
     
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  3. Jisela

    Jisela Well-Known Member

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    This is a great channel to help anyone from a Christian perspective understand all the excuses. He's a Christian Arab (converted to Christianity after study for many years, by a messianic Jew, believe it or not). He's a lawyer, an expert in Sharia law, and has written multiple books from the Christian perspective. If anyone is interested in that:

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOllN2W9yT4ZYaSgTkqzhhg
     
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  4. Jisela

    Jisela Well-Known Member

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    He speaks in both Arabic and English, but his live chats are extremely helpful for Christians (or other faiths) understand more.
     
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    Jisela Well-Known Member

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    He's also extremely funny.
     
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    I’m going to check him out when I get home.
     
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    This priest needs to stress that not all abused children grow up to repeat the cycle....his message is wrong, and to those of us that had extremely abusive childhoods, it’s very upsetting and judgemental.

    Sure, some abused kids will repeat the cycle, in a country as backwards as Tunisia, whereby violence is the norm in the majority of households....of course they will repeat the cycle, they think it’s normal, they see no different.

    For us in developed, civilised countries, as we grow, we become aware that our living conditions are not normal. I saw this in friends houses, and when we lived with our aunt, uncles and cousins.

    Us kids have grown up to become good, hardworking people, we are obsessively determined to keep our children safe, hence my refusal to take mine to Tunisia after I’d known him for long enough to warrant an introduction.

    My boys are adored, I love them more than words, I would never harm a hair on their heads....and God help anyone else that did.
    It was the terror he inflicted on my kids that led to my betrayal of Houssem, I reported him everywhere, yet I never had for his assaults on me, nor his hacking our bank account etc.

    In our countries, most abused kids do not repeat the cycle....we choose to go the other way, we never want our kids to suffer as we did...so those judgements hurt.

    With regards to respect, I have zero respect for my mother, my step father or Houssem....no abuser should ever be given respect. No level of fear, then or now, will ever make me respect this trash.
     
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    No, I didn’t mean every kid would. Some do break free of the cycle. You did. I know that. Some get counselling or have other people in their life a models who are kind, but in a place where it is common, it is more likely. I think what the preist is trying to do is get people in abusive homes into counselling.
    I know you are a good example of a child who overcame abuse. As a woman too.
    I am in Canada, Vancouver. There are a lot of cultures in my church. So maybe we have a local problem? My priest in PA is not as aggressive. It’s a college town, so he’s just happy some young people show up to mass.
     
  9. Jisela

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    I think we should be careful of attributing our cultural defects onto the culture in the Arab world. It's a form of cultural relativity. I think there are entirely distinct reasons causing this behavior in the Arab world, when what your priest was saying was attributing to abuse in the west, and maybe in specific situations. Regardless, the more I learn about the Arab world, the more I can see how the whole system works. It's a system of lies, intimidation, abuse, fear and slavery. It's a big deal.
     
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    Jisela Well-Known Member

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    But, I appreciate the overall dialogue because we all learn here.
     
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    Where I grew up, "if you can't learn you feel" "children learn what they live", but I taught my son to never ever hit a woman, just walk away. He is now a very respectful son, husband and father. You see his father was an abusive man and my son had seen enough to never repeat that cycle when he became a man. Too bad these rats' mothers don't have a clue outside their world. :(
    My two daughters: they both became involved with men who looked just like their father and same abusive streak (help me Lord:() until the eldest broke the cycle and has started her new life living overseas.;) The other daughter:rolleyes: unfortunately became an abusive, toxic person with a narcissistic personality:Cry:. She wears a mask during the day (she's successful in her business) and the other mask when nobody's looking "Mr. Hyde". (sigh) :confused: So I play the protective gran.
    I was taught you judge each case on its merits. Not every family is alike. Today, outside of my job, I aid in mentoring young girls from the ages of 9 through to high school assisting them to become respectable women with strong life skills and a contributing person to society. :)Two are now attending college with three on their way.:) What rat's family can top that!
     
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