Found out its a rat before its too late

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Keldeanz

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Happy Birthday @Keldeanz how are you doing? I think your baby was due pretty soon? I hope you managed to get rid of the rat completely. Is he still hiding out or has he been deported? Hope you and @Vampirecat are doing ok.
Hi. Thank you. Yeah I had my baby 26/4. A little boy, called him Blake. The rats still in Scotland but thankfully he hasn’t tried any contact. As vampirecat said he is on borrowed time!
 

Laura2014

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Congratulations, I hope you are all doing well. That’s at least one beautiful sweet thing to come from a rat.

Really kind of you to stop by and let us know. Stay well happy and Rat free. :thumbsup:

Let’s hope he’s on his merry way soon. I gather he’s on to No 3 now :rolleyes:
 

Derbygirl

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He used the same words with me “ I choose you” “ you are my one” then his ex send me texts with same words for her, still tryng to convince her back. When I confronted him he said it was a game, and got even worse when I called him liar, he dare to show me a pic next to other woman in hammamet and a small text calling other woman “sweety” he said cold blood none of us the ex or me were the top, he had better options. There were lot better women than us.
Blimey!!!!
 

Keldeanz

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My friends just had a message from the rat. He knows about Blake, which I wasn’t really bothered about because thought nothing he can do! But he’s said to her, only reason he’s still here is for his son that he won’t leave this county because of his son. Said he’s got a solicitor, they’ve informed ho he’s still here and his residency will be sorted soon. I’m presuming he means through Blake. Can he do that?
 

Heidi

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My friends just had a message from the rat. He knows about Blake, which I wasn’t really bothered about because thought nothing he can do! But he’s said to her, only reason he’s still here is for his son that he won’t leave this county because of his son. Said he’s got a solicitor, they’ve informed ho he’s still here and his residency will be sorted soon. I’m presuming he means through Blake. Can he do that?
:whistle:

Birth certificates
This information applies to Scotland

If the natural parents are not married the following points are important:-


  • the natural mother does not have to give details of the father on the birth certificate. She can leave that part of the form blank
  • the natural father cannot register his name unless the mother agrees
Registering a father on a child's birth certificate may also have the following effects:-

  • the Child Maintenance Service or the courts could use the certificate as evidence of paternity for maintenance proceedings
  • the courts could use the certificate as evidence of adultery
  • the father could use the certificate as evidence if he wants to apply to the courts for parental rights and responsibilities
  • the certificate gives very strong evidence that he is the father because his name can only be added if both the mother and father agree that he is the father or a court order states that he is
 

Heidi

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Working out if a father has parental responsibilities and rights
You have parental responsibilities and rights if you're the child's biological father and you:

  • were married to the child's birth mother when your child was conceived
  • married the child's birth mother after the child was conceived (even if you later got divorced)
If you don't have parental responsibilities and rights, it's up to the child's mother to decide what's best.
You have no legal right to make these choices.
 

Laura2014

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My friends just had a message from the rat. He knows about Blake, which I wasn’t really bothered about because thought nothing he can do! But he’s said to her, only reason he’s still here is for his son that he won’t leave this county because of his son. Said he’s got a solicitor, they’ve informed ho he’s still here and his residency will be sorted soon. I’m presuming he means through Blake. Can he do that?
Very important that you get a solicitor yourself. His solicitor will be telling him to apply for contact and he can seek a DNA to prove paternity. Even if you don’t register him as the father he can still seek a dna. You need to see a solicitor and or social services to explain that he should not have any rights because of the concerns you had at how he behaved with your own children. That he showed no interest or contact during the pregnancy or after the birth.
 

Mango Chutney

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My friends just had a message from the rat. He knows about Blake, which I wasn’t really bothered about because thought nothing he can do! But he’s said to her, only reason he’s still here is for his son that he won’t leave this county because of his son. Said he’s got a solicitor, they’ve informed ho he’s still here and his residency will be sorted soon. I’m presuming he means through Blake. Can he do that?
The bastard, he cares nothing for that beautiful baby :Evil:
Kel, I feel bad saying it when you can see little man and you love him, but these babies are called anchor babies....they are to secure a visa for the father, he can fight for permanent stay now by playing the Human Rights card, “The right to a family life”....they deliberately do this.
As Laura has already said.....he can have a DNA test done. He will insist on visitation rights with baby, as this makes it look like he’s more interested. You need some professional advice yourself about your rights and what you can do to protect your children.
 

tipme

Junior Rat Expert
The bastard, he cares nothing for that beautiful baby :Evil:
Kel, I feel bad saying it when you can see little man and you love him, but these babies are called anchor babies....they are to secure a visa for the father, he can fight for permanent stay now by playing the Human Rights card, “The right to a family life”....they deliberately do this.
As Laura has already said.....he can have a DNA test done. He will insist on visitation rights with baby, as this makes it look like he’s more interested. You need some professional advice yourself about your rights and what you can do to protect your children.
 

tipme

Junior Rat Expert
The way it works now.if he wants a DNA TEST he has to pay 500 pound .If the child is not his he gets the 500 pound back.but if the child is his they keep the 500 pound.so i cant see him wanting to do this .lol losing 500 pound also the CSA will chase him up CHILD SUPPORT AGENCY for people who dont no what csa is.NOT CIA FOR THEM STUPID RATS LOL Also child support is all changed if the mother is on benefits she will get maintenance if he is working are not and it will not effect her benefits.were before what ever father paid in it was took out of her benefit .Its because of poverty in children in uk .cos the bastards got of with it .how i no this my friend got and xtra 150 a month,on top of her benefits,her cheat tried to say child not his so when they asked him to pay 500 pound for dna test he near fainted cos he knew the baby was his,now csa chase them up actually better than cia they will find the rats x
 

Brasilgirl

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The way it works now.if he wants a DNA TEST he has to pay 500 pound .If the child is not his he gets the 500 pound back.but if the child is his they keep the 500 pound.so i cant see him wanting to do this .lol losing 500 pound also the CSA will chase him up CHILD SUPPORT AGENCY for people who dont no what csa is.NOT CIA FOR THEM STUPID RATS LOL Also child support is all changed if the mother is on benefits she will get maintenance if he is working are not and it will not effect her benefits.were before what ever father paid in it was took out of her benefit .Its because of poverty in children in uk .cos the bastards got of with it .how i no this my friend got and xtra 150 a month,on top of her benefits,her cheat tried to say child not his so when they asked him to pay 500 pound for dna test he near fainted cos he knew the baby was his,now csa chase them up actually better than cia they will find the rats x
Part of the parental visa should require proof of regular visits and regular payments of child support. He also would have to support himself. He may change his mind.
 

Vampirecat

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He is a wife beating monster who ive tried to get rid of . Kelly saw with her own eyes the tunisian young soon to be bride he has she saw the messages of love between them face timing. He met this bitch from tunisia when he was still with me told me she is a friend from school my arse shes about 16 he will use anybody to get his visa he mustve though all his eid days came true with kelly . I lost 2 bb to him its devastated me till no end but my boys r not gonna be used by that evil bastard. I hoped h o would get rid. I dont beleive his lies about lawyer etc hes no money tjis is his trying 2 scare kelly tactic . His new g f is obviously telling him what to say . She better watch out my guy is a biker his friends r many and they wont think twice off laying that scabby male bitch whore out .
 

Vampirecat

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Surly h o won't give him residency . Hes still legally married 2 me at the moment . I wrote them and told them his intent and they curtailed his visa. It beggars beleif that they can marry and as soon as we bump them they try use someone else have kids etc . H o r not stupid they must surly know these devious gits r at it x
 

Brasilgirl

Senior Rat Expert
He is a wife beating monster who ive tried to get rid of . Kelly saw with her own eyes the tunisian young soon to be bride he has she saw the messages of love between them face timing. He met this bitch from tunisia when he was still with me told me she is a friend from school my arse shes about 16 he will use anybody to get his visa he mustve though all his eid days came true with kelly . I lost 2 bb to him its devastated me till no end but my boys r not gonna be used by that evil bastard. I hoped h o would get rid. I dont beleive his lies about lawyer etc hes no money tjis is his trying 2 scare kelly tactic . His new g f is obviously telling him what to say . She better watch out my guy is a biker his friends r many and they wont think twice off laying that scabby male bitch whore out .
Well, threats aside, you have evidence that he is violent. The damage he’s done to you and your home. You can provide statement and evidence that a child would not be safe with him.
 

Vampirecat

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All my bloody effort to get rid . I vant do no more ive tried hes still here h o wont tell me anything its about data protection . Hopefully if he does apply residency the deport him them but h o need to know about thr abuse to kelly children and that he used her and hroomed her 2 stay here x
 

Mango Chutney

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Does this help any? I can’t remember all the details of this rat, so is he now in the UK legally or illegally?

Bad news for overstayers in latest hardening of British citizenship policy

A recent change in the Home Office’s good character policy for citizenship applications is set to have a significant impact on people with a history of overstaying.

The department expressly states for the first time that any overstaying in the last ten years will see an application for British citizenship refused, with some minor exceptions.

The new policy appears in the Good Character Requirementguidance. This was published in January 2019 but has received comparatively little notice amid the wider upheaval in the UK’s immigration laws of late.

The 53-page guidance has already been considered in previous blog posts, here and here, but the few lines on overstaying merit particular attention given the number of people likely to be affected.

What does the new policy say?
The new version now makes absolutely clear that where someone has overstayed at any point in the ten years before the application, they will be refused British citizenship. The only exception will be if this is the “sole adverse factor weighing against the person’s good character” and one of the following is true:

• the person’s application for leave to remain was made before 24 November 2016 and within 28 days of the expiry of their previous leave, or

• the person’s application for leave to remain was made on or after 24 November 2016, and the application did not fall for refusal on the grounds of overstaying because an exception under paragraph 39E of the Immigration Rules applied, or

• the period without leave was not the fault of the applicant, for example where it arose from a Home Office decision to refuse which is subsequently withdrawn or quashed or which the courts have required the Home Office to reconsider.

Anyone familiar with “permitted” overstaying is likely to be surprised that refusal would even be considered in the first two scenarios. These reflect existing and historic provisions in the Immigration Rules allowing out-of-time applications. It would be extremely harsh (although certainly not unprecedented for the Home Office) to permit behaviour in one context and then penalise someone for exactly the same behaviour in another context.

The third scenario, where “the period without leave was not the fault of the applicant” is more open-ended. This is most likely to benefit those who have successfully challenged the Home Office in some capacity, for example by way of judicial review (to which the protections of section 3Cof the Immigration Act 1971 don’t apply).

It is difficult to envision many other situations in which people could successfully argue that an extended period of overstaying was not their “fault”. The only obvious example that comes to mind is where the applicant was a child at the time of the overstaying and the guidance does in fact state elsewhere that applicants should not be penalised for this. Another example might be where the applicant was in an abusive relationship and prevented from extending their leave by their partner.

The fact remains that this point is likely to have limited application. Most people who have overstayed will be refused.

Evolution of overstaying policy
This development is the culmination of several years of progressive hardening in Home Office attitudes in this area. Until December 2014, the position was:

The decision maker will not normally refuse an application where the person has a history of evading [immigration] control themselves, particularly where there is no other evidence to cast doubt on their character.

In December 2014, this was amended to state that illegal entry in the last ten years would be a ground for refusal, as well as that:-

The decision maker will normally refuse an application if within the 10 years preceding the application the person has not been compliant with immigration requirements, including but not limited to having:

(a) failed to report

(b) failed to comply with any conditions imposed under the Immigration Acts

(c) been detected working in the UK without permission.

This radical change caught many unawares and the Home Office practice of refusing applications in these circumstances, even where the application had been submitted before December 2014, was particularly controversial.

Anecdotally, the most common reason for refusal on this basis was where someone had been “detected working”. This was either because the Home Office knew of the working in some other context or because the applicant declared it on the form.

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But after a while, the Home Office upped the stakes. Applicants with any period of overstaying in the previous ten years were sent a questionnaire requiring them to explain how they had managed to support themselves during the time in question. In exceptional cases where they were able to provide rock-solid evidence – for example, having been in receipt of local authority support – such applications were allowed.

In most cases however, such evidence was not available or was deemed not comprehensive enough. Nine times out of ten, the Home Office would refuse on the basis “we are not satisfied that you have been able to maintain yourself without access to employment or public funds”. These refusals were particularly infuriating because there simply was no evidence of the alleged wrongdoing and so no way to contest it.

Consistency, at the expense of fairness
In this sense, the new guidance is to be welcomed. At least it provides clarity. Applicants know exactly where they stand and, in most cases, can now be advised not to apply until ten years have passed.

Yet in a broader sense, this still feels exceptionally unfair. The British Nationality Act 1981 expressly states that applicants must not have been in “breach of immigration laws” during the qualifying period of three or five years before the date of application (depending on whether it is made under s6(1) or (2)).

Surely if Parliament had intended the qualifying period to last ten years, it would have said so? However, legal challenges on this point have made no headway to date. The courts accord the Secretary of State a very wide margin of discretion on what constitutes good character and so, for the time being, this latest change seems here to stay.

https://www.freemovement.org.uk/overstaying-good-character-british-citizenship/
 

Vampirecat

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I hope this is it then . Just need kelly to write h o asap . Does any u guys know amanda from i love my foreign spouce ? She told me ages ago to ask kelly to write h o it may be to late . I hope not coz he needs to be in a continuous relationship with the bb and c bim . Hes trying to scare kelly in 2 letting him c bb by threatning with a lawyer . I saw the txt he wrote its obviously been his new g f wrote it perfect english etc . I cant waste any more time on this rat its having an impact on my relationship with my new partner . Ive done my best i regret marrying it and bringing it here. The only thing i can do now is be a witness against him to lawyer social work etc if kelly needs me . Yeah i make threats on here wanna kill him no wonder . 22 week bb boy dead coz of him and the heart break and stress he caysed me the impact of his deviousness and cheating im surorised im not dead . Imagine 4 weeks after split up hes off witj someone else and the girls pregnant . So is his fecking wife. But he will never kniw bb joshua died or even exsisted . It beggars beleif all ive went thru at the hands of this little male whore . Im here 2 support kelly . I just pray he gets deported. X
 
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