He's Calling Her. I'm Calling Tunisian Love Rat - Hamza Riahi, Zaghouan

Liona

Rat Expert
but to give it one last try
Last try for such disrespectful, rude, using man? What a patience you have. Now you have enough time to think about everything.
I am sincerely wishing you make right final decision.
I like my profile signature : There comes a time when you have to stop crossing oceans for people who wouldn't even jump puddles for you.(c)
 
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Heidi

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I don't even know how to organize all of this, but I think he really believes he's fighting a religious war with my country (and on me), and using women is just his gateway towards getting into some sort of groups or starting groups, etc. Looking back on 18 months, he was always really aggressive and wild inside with judgment about politics and war - angry about the French, really angry - even when I tried to make him stop and demanded that we stop, he couldn't stop himself. Often he makes side comments like "the blood of Iraq is on your back, etc." I don't know if this is typical religious extremism or he's really mental (PTSD), or missing some DNA, or what... but 18 months of my life has been spent like this, while he watches porn... now, he's moving fast to find his next victims.
I think he will try to stop you to leave. He don't want to lose his cash cow. I think he is playing games with you.
I meant don't tell anybody in Tunisia ;)
Is any member in Nabeul at the moment who can help Jisela?

and when you leave, don't forget to take your marriage license
 
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Mango Chutney

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I don't think I can change the ticket now, but I have been thinking of going to a hotel for a week. I'm still undecided. I'm making decisions literally minute by minute, second by second, now.
Hi Jisela, welcome back to TLR...I always hoped you would come back :)
Chick, if you can't change your flight, you need to change your location.
@Big Bang Theory .......pop into this thread please :love:
 
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Laura2014

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My family knows I'm coming home and exactly why. I shared all of his dirty deeds with them with the screenshots and everything, because he started fights with my family over religion, and I'd been protecting our marriage. I don't know why. I wanted them to know I was coming home, and exactly why.
Maybe it’s a huge ask but could a family member, preferably Male, fly over and fly back with you?
 

yougogirl75

Junior Rat Expert
I don't even know how to organize all of this, but I think he really believes he's fighting a religious war with my country (and on me), and using women is just his gateway towards getting into some sort of groups or starting groups, etc. Looking back on 18 months, he was always really aggressive and wild inside with judgment about politics and war - angry about the French, really angry - even when I tried to make him stop and demanded that we stop, he couldn't stop himself. Often he makes side comments like "the blood of Iraq is on your back, etc." I don't know if this is typical religious extremism or he's really mental (PTSD), or missing some DNA, or what... but 18 months of my life has been spent like this, while he watches porn... now, he's moving fast to find his next victims.
Hello Jisela, yes I feel the same that some of them bring politics into it. I am from Canada, and I get that they feel an insecurity or a jealousy of how we live here and they are so wrong to think like this. They want what we have, and they strive to use us as well because of their twisted mentality. My rat has a cousin who has a great talent but he is married to a tunisian, they don't seem to mind that they use western women neither, I think a lie is a lie and my rat helped him find a few Canadian women so they help each other the dirty rats and their families and friends. Made me sick to think I even helped him at one point and how ungrateful they all were for it.
 

Mango Chutney

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Did you rat help his married cousin to find a Canadian women to use?:eek:
That's how I read it too....but it seems she is ok with this arrangement:
he is married to a tunisian, they don't seem to mind that they use western women neither
I'd like to say I'm shocked and horrified, but I'm not....we all know how these women pimp their man out for gifts and cash.
Although I'm not surprised....it's a sure thing I will never understand :thumbsup:
 

yougogirl75

Junior Rat Expert
That's how I read it too....but it seems she is ok with this arrangement:

I'd like to say I'm shocked and horrified, but I'm not....we all know how these women pimp their man out for gifts and cash.
Although I'm not surprised....it's a sure thing I will never understand :thumbsup:
Yes, the cousin is still on tagged.com acting like he is single looking for the woman of his dreams in Canada. Yes, the tunisian wife knows and wants a better life so instead of applying as an immigrant or for work there he would rather do this looking for a victim in Canada so that he can make his Tunisian wife happier. My disgusting rat is helping him with the language part because the cousin's english and french are not good. I feel sick I ever knew my rat, this makes my blood boil. This cousin has been married for a year and is still on his tagged.com so since I noticed that I don't like the mentality of these people. When I asked my rat how he can act as his cousin and send others comments and tags on tagged.com he said f*** you! I just think once you are married you should only love your wife or husband not go looking in different places for others it just with them married or not they want what they want and greed takes over for these tunisian rats. These tunisian rats don't care who they hurt on the way.
 
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Mango Chutney

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Hey Heidi. I've got all my documents organized, thanks for that advice. Otherwise, my bags are packed and everything is ready to go at any minute. It's so funny, I never felt comfortable unpacking and organizing my stuff here, because I couldn't shake the feeling that I needed to bolt for the door. He made me feel crazy. But, hindsight is 20-20.
For as long as you are in his house, is there anybody knows your address? An exact location, that could get to you if need be? Are you registered with the police and your relevant embassy? Does anybody have a contact number for you?

I know exactly what you mean about the unpacking and organising...I felt exactly the same after my first year....I often left bits in my cases to flee in a hurry...but dickhead ripped the linings whilst looking for stuff I'd hidden....like I'd be stupid enough to hide the important stuff in my suitcase :D

Just stay safe, don't antagonise him, just do what I did for those last five days, awaiting a flight out: Keep quiet and agree with everything.
Please, please do let us know when you are safely away from him....it's so hard not to worry :love:
 

Brasilgirl

Senior Rat Expert
I do have my residency card, but it's registered in Zaghouan. Otherwise, my family has my contact information. So does my sister. The hardest part is waiting and resisting the urge to disagree with him --- or make an attempt to reconcile our radically different understanding of right and wrong. It doesn't matter anymore. I fought for as long as I could, before having to see the truth and realize that there's literally no hope to build anything or fix anything with anyone who accepts this crime.

Do you mind if I ask what happened to your rat, after you left? Just curious, what happens to these guys in the long run? If anyone has information like that, I'm interested to know.
I hope you get out safely. See if there is a way to send your family your gps coordinates. Just in case. Or post your location in Facebook. And keep in contact with your family. Maybe use a code word so you can send a message for emergency help.
I really do not trust these rats. They can flip over to the devil as fast as you can flip a coin.
Be careful and take care. Wish you the best!
 

Mango Chutney

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Staff member
I do have my residency card, but it's registered in Zaghouan. Otherwise, my family has my contact information. So does my sister. The hardest part is waiting and resisting the urge to disagree with him --- or make an attempt to reconcile our radically different understanding of right and wrong. It doesn't matter anymore. I fought for as long as I could, before having to see the truth and realize that there's literally no hope to build anything or fix anything with anyone who accepts this crime.

Do you mind if I ask what happened to your rat, after you left? Just curious, what happens to these guys in the long run? If anyone has information like that, I'm interested to know.
Your current situation brings back so many memories.
I was left registered in Khelidia the village, even though in the end, we were permanently in Ezzahra.

In Khelidia (a small village), nobody asked questions, as his brother was a customs officer and recognised locally...but Ezzahra (a big town) was a different case.
It frightened me to know that if the worse should happen...nobody actually knew my exact location...which is why I stress the importance of this to others.
There is little point in your doing this now, but for anybody reading here that this may be applicable to, please ensure that with every housemove, break away etc, your details are updated at the local police station and with your embassy...it's really important.

Yes, the agreeing is really hard, but it's just for a few days and it keeps you safe-ish. I just remained as silent and invisible as possible, agreed with everything and slept away as many hours as possible to make the time go faster. I had hidden my passport, a photo copy of my main passport page, some cash, my bank cards, SIM cards and some emergency contact numbers....all in different places.

My rat still rots in Tunisia. He was reported to every authority globally for many things. He still fishes, but he can't get out legally, so I guess he is ratting for cash now. He has tried multiple illegal escape attempts...and failed.
 

Big Bang Theory

Senior Rat Expert
When I get myself less paralyzed with stress today, I will decide on what to do. If I leave to the hotel, I'll tell everyone here.
Jisela, please join this Facebook group

https://m.facebook.com/groups/640022536037684?ref=content_filter

there are women living in Tunisia (possibly near you) who can help.
when you request to join admin will message you to ask some questions so please check your 'message requests' folder in Messenger
 
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Bostons

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@jeslea I hope you are safe!
I remember reading a story here not too long ago about a pregnant women that was frightengly near birth and had to travel and escape before she was in labor! Please be careful and get out of there!
Please post to us when you are safe?
 

Amira

Rat Expert
That's how I read it too....but it seems she is ok with this arrangement:

I'd like to say I'm shocked and horrified, but I'm not....we all know how these women pimp their man out for gifts and cash.
Although I'm not surprised....it's a sure thing I will never understand :thumbsup:
As long as there is talk of money, it's no wonder he has more women next to her than they think but what if he brings a serious illness into their home? Then I do not think they are so happy with their men any more. They do not think that he has more women he is dealing with. No, I do not understand their thinking it's too complicated to me
 

yougogirl75

Junior Rat Expert
As long as there is talk of money, it's no wonder he has more women next to her than they think but what if he brings a serious illness into their home? Then I do not think they are so happy with their men any more. They do not think that he has more women he is dealing with. No, I do not understand their thinking it's too complicated to me
Neither do I understand and yes it is too complicated to even comprehend their rat behaviour. I am trying to detoxify my life right now and it has to be the hardest thing I have ever had to do but necessary in my life because once you steep further the rat hole the harder it gets. Who needs the constant day by day critique from these low lifes, who don't even think they need to lift a finger yet ready to point their dirty fingers. I am never going to give him the power to affect me ever again because now I assessed the damage, emotionally, spiritually and ultimately affecting me physically so it is no joke having to start all over again but at least I have a whole new future to look forward to. So life is hard enough as it is without that crap in my life rather be alone in peace what is the worst that could happen because I never once let myself down so I have nothing to lose but everything to lose if I continued down the rat hole. Right now I don't even care for another relationship, just living and surviving and keeping it together everyday for the sake of my son I am doing this for him. Just accomplishing little goals to get back to the way I was before him slowly but surely. Sorry for my rant, maybe off topic a little bit but yes it is all about money and nothing they say really comes from the heart sincerely. I guess some of the rats Tunisian wives have no choice but to go along with the charade.
 
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Amira

Rat Expert
guess some of the rats Tunisian wives have no choice but to go along with the charade.
They have a choice these Tunisian women but this honor is high in their way of life. They are too busy what people should say if they take divorce. What is best to live with a man should not be trusted and who is always lying or living alone. It's better to live alone and even if they do not get married again, they keep their Health in order
 

Judithlyn

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So, with the voice of an angel, this man married me and promised forever. How quickly that heavy mask was removed, and rarely put back on. He worked when forced, always slept, needed medical bills paid for [edited] problems, caused by a beer fight with a [edit-edit] friend before I arrived. I didn't know it until I got to Tunisia. His medications left him partially [edit]. Eventually, we discovered he had severe [health] problems that needed surgery - who paid for that? Yes, it was all me. And, yes, I regret paying to fix all of that, now... He will turn so fast on anyone when it serves his selfish, evil purpose. He is without remorse.

How many nights I wondered if he didn't love me because [edited]? His behavior was so strange, cold, moody and unpredictable - beyond respect. [edited] Facebook that compliment each other's smiles, with hearts and kisses, on messenger -- I can't tell you.

I paid for the paperwork for the wedding, the tourist visa that got denied, and the immigration papers that became his only focus in the marriage. He tried to push me into buying land, taking out loans, etc. I refused all of it because of this website. Thankfully, because of helpful information here, I realized before he could get a visa into The USA and do so much worse. [edited].

Not only does he lack remorse for taking a woman's money, he lacks remorse for [edited personal fault details], while adding dozens of unsuspecting women (victims) on Facebook, he has no remorse even when found out. There's always a reason - it's my fault he's speaking romantic with her (a new woman, from The USA, in her forties with two innocent kids), now -- he was really angry when I stopped the immigration paperwork. Everything was ending.

He prays, smokes, and likes to tell me how much he hates democracy, free women, wants to start religious and political groups to fight against them - all the while watching [edited], sitting in the clothes I bought him, speaking bad words to me in the English I taught him, waiting for his golden ticket from any one of these Facebook contacts to let him ride.

There were many incidents of [edited] abuse. He blamed me we could not have children fast. Hindsight, it was all a blessing. I stopped his ticket; gained the upper hand stopping his immigration paperwork. I will make sure... [edited]...

Note: I edited this for privacy and safety concerns, and also for protection of health information - even angry, I have to respect some ethical boundaries. But, the other information is left intact.
Contact the USA State Dept. and Immigration and Border Control, Customs, and the TSA!! Warn them that he is a very undesirable person to the well-being of the USA! The USA does not need these vultures! Also contact all of the Embassies in Tunis. Give them all as much information as you know....full name, address, birth date, telephone numbers, social media accounts and names, Tunisian ID number, passport number and expiration, drivers license number....anything! Stop him! I’m sorry for your pain! It’s brutal what these monsters do but by getting the word out, we CAN make a difference!
 

Judithlyn

Rat Expert
The USA Embassy seems fairly good. I gave them his name, address, phone numbers before I ever went to Tunisia “just in case”. I’m American too! In your situation, call them on your cellphone, tell them what is going on, but do not give his telephone number. You don’t want some dumb person or a Tunisian national working there to tip him off in anyway. They may can provide you a safe place to stay until you fly out. Your situation scares me. Do not provoke that rat, no matter what. Be “normal”, no confrontations, agree with him even if you don’t, apologize even if you’ve done nothing wrong....the point is to insure your safety until you are safely away from that monster! Best wishes to you! Please take care of yourself!
 

yougogirl75

Junior Rat Expert
It's so tragic what happens here. It's a solid mentality that is supported by many men (not all) to exploit women and treat them like dirt. I'm sure the Tunisian women suffer so much more than is known, and wish there were some documented stories about it. They likely suffer in silence because it's considered normal and no one can do anything for them - and the stigma of divorce is so destructive in Tunisia. So sad. I hope you're doing better.
I am at the last stage of grief since I was and I am not afraid to say it abandoned by my rat 10 months ago. Abandonment in every sense of the word so I already went through all the pent up anger I have had and now I just accept it for what it is and have moved on. The increase of narcissism has contributed to the downfall of many marriages. I do believe the Tunisian rat is unique at a higher and different level than other men in the global population.. The Tunisian women often have no choice but to stay even if she is working she would still have to rely on her husband so being self sufficient as a woman over there is a very difficult task to do. I am doing better, thank you for your concern and I hope for better days for you too!
 
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Liona

Rat Expert
Hi @Jisela ! Thank you for coming with update. It's nice to hear you are in safe place and doing well.:):love:

but I didn't know I should contact all of the embassies?
Do these embassies in any way collaborate with each other?
After Interpol has lost their own chief, I am not sure in anything anymore.
I am sure we urgent need some united embassy dealing with the rats' questions.
 
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