I don’t know if I’m being played or if he’s genuinely such a nice person

[Sabrina]

I don’t post much.
I didn’t want to listen to all on here as I thought (like many) mine was different.
He wasn’t!!!
His fb was very normal, nothing to show red flags.
His family were not pushy, no love bombing.
Because of reading in here I was careful with leaving money about.
I heard the usual age is just a number. Of course my will accept you, they love you like family already, got called sis etc…
It’s all a lie.
it’s only when I really pushed and he got annoyed with me that he said if you don’t believe me have my fb log in and check for these lies
Well I didn’t see other girls etc (yes could of been deleted)
He knew I couldn’t read Tunisian so I took screen shots of his conversations and got them translated.
That’s when I found out the truth!!!
Please be careful.
I’ve had the weekend from hell twisting it all back onto me even tho I had proof of his lies in black and white.
The whole family will lie for them and back them up again even with proof.
Then they get nasty.
I’m building up courage to post in media because if I can stop just 1 woman falling for his game then it’s worth my pain x

I’m happy you posted, what you have to input is very true and important for ladies to know how they and their families act! And they never lie and it’s always our fault! Even ask their cousins. Mine had a cousin that backed all, he was our go between when I blocked mine! That’s why I’m saying this

 

[Sabrina]

Thank you
It’s taken every ounce of strength to do that
I do feel stupid, hurt and angry. Very confused with what happened and how I allowed it yet still crying my eyes out at missing him
This is the hardest thing I’ve ever gone through and no idea how I’m going to get through it
I posted in the hope of someone sees him, the screen shots they might walk away quicker than I did

We all felt the same way and it takes a while to get over missing them and the conversations we keep going thru in our minds but it will go away I promise! At least this is a start for you!

 

[Imj]

I’m happy you posted, what you have to input is very true and important for ladies to know how they and their families act! And they never lie and it’s always our fault! Even ask their cousins. Mine had a cousin that backed all, he was our go between when I blocked mine! That’s why I’m saying this

Mine was the nephew
Wanted to help us sort out the misunderstanding, was very nice and kind
He was shocked of course at what had happened
Until I commented on his post with the evidence
Then it turned nasty with messages from the nephew and brother.
Of course I’m the one who isn’t well, I must be sick to say these things, they are respectable men blah blah blah
The only one not to comment or contact me is the rat himself

 

[Sabrina]

Mine was the nephew
Wanted to help us sort out the misunderstanding, was very nice and kind
He was shocked of course at what had happened
Until I commented on his post with the evidence
Then it turned nasty with messages from the nephew and brother.
Of course I’m the one who isn’t well, I must be sick to say these things, they are respectable men blah blah blah
The only one not to comment or contact me is the rat himself

They try to turn everything around on us! I hope you have blocked them all.

 

[Butterflies]

Mine was the nephew
Wanted to help us sort out the misunderstanding, was very nice and kind
He was shocked of course at what had happened
Until I commented on his post with the evidence
Then it turned nasty with messages from the nephew and brother.
Of course I’m the one who isn’t well, I must be sick to say these things, they are respectable men blah blah blah
The only one not to comment or contact me is the rat himself

I know we feel stupid to fall for it, but we shouldn't feel stupid at all, our intentions where real and honest.
It's really takes time to get over it @Imj, you miss the daily talks, the nice days, sweet words you exchanged but let's be honest here. It was not real, you loved the man he pretened to be. He created a picture of himself in your mind.
The fact the cousin tried to "help" you to get over the misunderstandings with the rat says it all really. He stepped in so you would believe the rat was a good man with a white heart. And when the truth comes out they all pretend it was your fault....... Its not your fault, they where angry they where caught in all their lies so the rat lost his potential victim. You.
You safed yourself from more troubles and problems because you went searching for the truth and found it.
Rats are devious, rats are not loving caring men, they are just scamming loosers from Tunisia and your rat will search for another victim. Don't feel tempted to take him back because nothing will change.
He will try to contact you and try to change your mind. He will claim he can't live without you, he will kill himself....... All blah blah blah it means nothing it are just words and lies again. Stay strong and if you feel like you want to talk to him, just sit on your hands and stay away from the unblock button.
We are here whenever you want to chat or 'eed some support xxx

 

[Astarisborn]

I know we feel stupid to fall for it, but we shouldn't feel stupid at all, our intentions where real and honest.
It's really takes time to get over it @Imj, you miss the daily talks, the nice days, sweet words you exchanged but let's be honest here. It was not real, you loved the man he pretened to be. He created a picture of himself in your mind.
The fact the cousin tried to "help" you to get over the misunderstandings with the rat says it all really. He stepped in so you would believe the rat was a good man with a white heart. And when the truth comes out they all pretend it was your fault....... Its not your fault, they where angry they where caught in all their lies so the rat lost his potential victim. You.
You safed yourself from more troubles and problems because you went searching for the truth and found it.
Rats are devious, rats are not loving caring men, they are just scamming loosers from Tunisia and your rat will search for another victim. Don't feel tempted to take him back because nothing will change.
He will try to contact you and try to change your mind. He will claim he can't live without you, he will kill himself....... All blah blah blah it means nothing it are just words and lies again. Stay strong and if you feel like you want to talk to him, just sit on your hands and stay away from the unblock button.
We are here whenever you want to chat or 'eed some support xxx

that cousin especially is trying to get you both over the misunderstandings, I have had so many messages
after falling out with the rat, supposedly from the brother "wats the probem between you both, you can wok it out"" but it was the rat on FB making
another account with his brother's profile pic
and the English is bad, but wait the brother can't speak any English hardly
you know its them behind the messages

 

[Plantsandsuch]

I understand. This is not about knowing everything, just the things that help you make an informed decision whether he is worth the hassle or not, whether you are wasting your time. Because you're still young and there's probably a lot of guys closer to your age that would love to know you better.

My point is this. If he's a rat, especially an older one, emotional manipulation is his bread and butter. That gives him an enormous head start to someone looking for love. There's no place for manipulation in that equation.

Again, the aim is to prod him a bit, see if discrepancies come up.

If he is underqualified in his field in Tunisia, why would a US company even bother?


Asking him directly won't get you anywhere. You'd sooner squeeze water from a stone.



They (the rats) all do. How else would they manage to abuse the trust of so many women with careers, an active social life and accomplishments?



They often say that, and that they're not religious. @Aisha1 could tell you a bit about the chances of that being true, I'm not Tunisian.

I didn't really want to pluck your replies apart like this, either... You sound very smart and switched-on, so that's good. All I'm saying is don't ignore red flags like his desire to work with an American company. That's really worrisome because he won't get to the US working serving the food on a cruise ship, and he can't work his way up from serving food on a cruise ship. It's a fact that he would need a US spouse for that.

I appreciate all your input, honestly! The last thing I want is to put all my energy into someone for them to just be using me for personal gain. I’m still taking everything he’s said with a grain of salt, but I tried to catch him off guard today by telling him I found a guy on facebook that looks exactly like him, but he’s got a wife and I said “this isn’t actually you is it?” And he looked so puzzled and confused, the he said well unless I have a wife I don’t even know about then its definitely not me. And didn’t even ask for me to send s screenshot or show him or anything. I also tried asking him timeline questions a few days apart to see if his stories matched up, and sure enough they did.. I have such a good feeling about him being genuine, but then so many question marks after reading through these posts.

 

[Astarisborn]

I appreciate all your input, honestly! The last thing I want is to put all my energy into someone for them to just be using me for personal gain. I’m still taking everything he’s said with a grain of salt, but I tried to catch him off guard today by telling him I found a guy on facebook that looks exactly like him, but he’s got a wife and I said “this isn’t actually you is it?” And he looked so puzzled and confused, the he said well unless I have a wife I don’t even know about then its definitely not me. And didn’t even ask for me to send s screenshot or show him or anything. I also tried asking him timeline questions a few days apart to see if his stories matched up, and sure enough they did.. I have such a good feeling about him being genuine, but then so many question marks after reading through these posts.

when you came on here you knew there was a doubt
you will never know the true answers until you are in deep with this one, they never show their true intentions
they can hide behind other FB profiles so well who is to say he is genuine?
to tell you how he loves your family so soon just knowing you, that you are the most beautiful girl in the world blah blah
that's making you feel loved and the only one when in fact that's what this one says about anyone he meets not just you.

You will never know that until he pulls the wool over your eyes once you are into really deep with him
It is what you don't know and what you don't see he isn't going to tell you the truth and let out who he really is!
If he let all his secrets out there, would you even want him???
See, its all smoke and mirrors with these rats!
for all you know he could be living a double life and this is just temporary.
Do you really want to go on questioning everything, if you have to do that
then you might as well give up on this one.
Something doesn't seem right at all with his story, and I am sure the other members
picked up on it too!

 

[Imj]

I know we feel stupid to fall for it, but we shouldn't feel stupid at all, our intentions where real and honest.
It's really takes time to get over it @Imj, you miss the daily talks, the nice days, sweet words you exchanged but let's be honest here. It was not real, you loved the man he pretened to be. He created a picture of himself in your mind.
The fact the cousin tried to "help" you to get over the misunderstandings with the rat says it all really. He stepped in so you would believe the rat was a good man with a white heart. And when the truth comes out they all pretend it was your fault....... Its not your fault, they where angry they where caught in all their lies so the rat lost his potential victim. You.
You safed yourself from more troubles and problems because you went searching for the truth and found it.
Rats are devious, rats are not loving caring men, they are just scamming loosers from Tunisia and your rat will search for another victim. Don't feel tempted to take him back because nothing will change.
He will try to contact you and try to change your mind. He will claim he can't live without you, he will kill himself....... All blah blah blah it means nothing it are just words and lies again. Stay strong and if you feel like you want to talk to him, just sit on your hands and stay away from the unblock button.
We are here whenever you want to chat or 'eed some support xxx

Thank you
Not going to lie. I’m really struggling
Finding out all the hidden fb accounts etc
Just reinforced what i suspected
I knew I was right when they all turned nasty on me
But, I stand by my decision
He is a rat, so he needs his spotlight and got it

I appreciate all your input, honestly! The last thing I want is to put all my energy into someone for them to just be using me for personal gain. I’m still taking everything he’s said with a grain of salt, but I tried to catch him off guard today by telling him I found a guy on facebook that looks exactly like him, but he’s got a wife and I said “this isn’t actually you is it?” And he looked so puzzled and confused, the he said well unless I have a wife I don’t even know about then its definitely not me. And didn’t even ask for me to send s screenshot or show him or anything. I also tried asking him timeline questions a few days apart to see if his stories matched up, and sure enough they did.. I have such a good feeling about him being genuine, but then so many question marks after reading through these posts.

I appreciate all your input, honestly! The last thing I want is to put all my energy into someone for them to just be using me for personal gain. I’m still taking everything he’s said with a grain of salt, but I tried to catch him off guard today by telling him I found a guy on facebook that looks exactly like him, but he’s got a wife and I said “this isn’t actually you is it?” And he looked so puzzled and confused, the he said well unless I have a wife I don’t even know about then its definitely not me. And didn’t even ask for me to send s screenshot or show him or anything. I also tried asking him timeline questions a few days apart to see if his stories matched up, and sure enough they did.. I have such a good feeling about him being genuine, but then so many question marks after reading through these posts.

I didn’t want to think or believe my man could be fake and lying, mine wasn’t like all these other guys. I was lucky.
I WAS WRONG
I had looked and looked for evidence of lies and found nothing.
Then when I found one little thing it led to more and more
Mine wasn’t too much money luckily
But the mind games and emotional pulls will scar me for a long time
Since Thursday I have found 5 fb accounts, 2 nothing like his name and they are specific for the girls he wanted to hide.
ALL the family were in on it and lied to cover his tracks. The sister even told me what he had done wasn’t too bad as he just wanted a better life.
Please take everything in and never dismiss what he could be.

 

[Astarisborn]

Hey so I didn’t really meet this guy online. For starters in 23, & went on a cruise 2 weeks ago with my family and saw our server the first night of dinner. Thought he was super cute, but obviously didn’t say anything. We continued to not talk for the next two nights at dinner, but I saw him at lunch on the 4th day and he came up to me and said hi and asked me about my day. The conversation was just friendly but by the 4th night at dinner I noticed he’d smile at me in passing and ended up making good friends with my entire family. From then until the last day was was a little flirty with me but nothing too out there because hes obviously working and didn’t want to jeopardize his job by flirting with a guest. On the last full day at lunch I walked around to find a seat by myself because my family went to a different restaurant that day and I wasn’t very hungry. He ended up coming up to me and asking if there’s any way he could get my number because he would really like to stay in touch after the cruise.. I was a little nervous, but thought he was sweet so I gave it to him. He told us he was 34 and we honestly didn’t even believe him because he looks no older than 26, but he even showed us his ID at dinner one night because he had to look at all of ours to make sure we could get drinks at dinner. He was really good at making conversation with my family and even told us all how happy he was to feel like he had a new family away from home since he’s been away from Tunisia for 5 months now. After dinner we all took pictures with him and gave him a hug goodbye & he gave me his bracelet and told me he got it in Tunisia and has had it for a few years, but he wanted me to have it as something to remember him by. He also followed me on instagram & my parents friended him on facebook. His social media accounts don’t really bring up any raised eyebrows other then on instagram he follows a bunch of Tunisian girls. I’ve been talking to him everyday since we left and he even uses his one hour of daily free Wi-Fi to video call with me. He is so sweet and always mentions how he would love for me to visit him in Tunisia one day so he can show me all the beautiful sites, he talks about wanting to come to the US one day to work to better himself because even working for an American cruise line he doesn’t make enough to support himself, but never says anything about getting a visa or asking me about money. He always says things like “I miss seeing you and your family” or “I hope you have a great day, you deserve so much happiness” or “I’ll support you in whatever you do” & “you are the most beautiful girl in the world”. More recently he’s been a little more flirty and says things like “I hope you can be with me one day” & “I can’t wait to see you again” and “when you come to Tunisia to visit me I will show you all about our culture & you can meet my family”. I mean he’s so sweet and I genuinely want to believe he’s just a real and genuine guy but I’m scared after reading all these that this might be “love bombing”.. and I also read something here about an age gap.. when he asked me how old I was and I told him 22, he told me that “age is just a number, and he doesn’t care because he knows I have a beautiful heart”.. and that I was “young and beautiful”. I’m so unfamiliar with the culture in Tunisia as I grew up in the states, and I know things are very different there. I just need someone’s opinion/ perspective to tell me.. should I give this guy a chance or am I being totally fooled right now.

He "follows" a bunch of Tunisian girls on Instagram, how do you know for certain that one of them is his wife,
I mean he is 34 years old and obviously has a history, men his age in Tunisia are already married by then
they tell you they are modern thinking but they are not , they will always follow their tradition
in their culture and do as their family wants
"I'll support you whatever you do" these are things people would say who know you well
of course rats support whatever gives them what they need just think about it a bracelet was
given to you, it would have been for the next one for the purpose of hauling them in to feed more BS
I say they work quickly,, at his age, he would know more of what works and doesn't by then.
Age is just a number, maybe to you but to him it another BS line.

 

[Dangerous Beans]

I appreciate all your input, honestly! The last thing I want is to put all my energy into someone for them to just be using me for personal gain. I’m still taking everything he’s said with a grain of salt, but I tried to catch him off guard today by telling him I found a guy on facebook that looks exactly like him, but he’s got a wife and I said “this isn’t actually you is it?” And he looked so puzzled and confused, the he said well unless I have a wife I don’t even know about then its definitely not me. And didn’t even ask for me to send s screenshot or show him or anything. I also tried asking him timeline questions a few days apart to see if his stories matched up, and sure enough they did.. I have such a good feeling about him being genuine, but then so many question marks after reading through these posts.

It's great you keep your wits about you, despite having such a good feeling about him. Everyone that was scammed by a rat would have sworn up and down that their rat was their soulmate. Still you looked up TLR, whether because you had a gut feeling or because you heard some things about Tunisian rats.

I dunno if him declining to see the other profile makes him look good. Did you ask him about the timeline in his "original" profile?

This is gonna sound paradoxical so bear with me, but him acting cool as a cucumber is kinda odd because under "normal" circumstances he could have been disappointed that you don't trust him. Could be he was expecting scrutiny. On the other hand sometimes they do act all hurt to make their victims feel guilty for doubting... lol absurd doesn't even cover it right? Unpredictability is the rat MO though.

It sounds alarming you found someone who looks EXACTLY like him and rats can tell white lies to your face no problem. There's always reverse image search...
But what really set off my spidey (ratty?) sense. To be able to work on that cruise ship, he must have provided ties to his home country, and we know it's not employment:

The most important thing the Consular Officers want to hear is that you don’t want to immigrate to the United States. If you don’t have a family to go back to, a steady job, a loan, an estate, or any other binding proof that demonstrates your close connection to the country of your residence, it might look that you’re coming to the United States with another intention. Clearly state that you’re only planning to transit the United States while you’re working as a crewmember of a sea vessel or aircraft.

A wife back home would totally fit the bill. However, if he used a marriage to get the visa, he would commit fraud if he tried to get to the US through you so I don't think that's possible because the US would know about it?
And then there's the fact that the average Tunisian man marries aged 33 (according to Google) sooo... it's entirely possible he's just not a rat.

Don't feel guilty for questioning him, this is just looking out for yourself. If he's not traditional would he be okay with not marrying? Where's he from in Tunisia?

 

[Sabrina]

Thank you
Not going to lie. I’m really struggling
Finding out all the hidden fb accounts etc
Just reinforced what i suspected
I knew I was right when they all turned nasty on me
But, I stand by my decision
He is a rat, so he needs his spotlight and got it


I didn’t want to think or believe my man could be fake and lying, mine wasn’t like all these other guys. I was lucky.
I WAS WRONG
I had looked and looked for evidence of lies and found nothing.
Then when I found one little thing it led to more and more
Mine wasn’t too much money luckily
But the mind games and emotional pulls will scar me for a long time
Since Thursday I have found 5 fb accounts, 2 nothing like his name and they are specific for the girls he wanted to hide.
ALL the family were in on it and lied to cover his tracks. The sister even told me what he had done wasn’t too bad as he just wanted a better life.
Please take everything in and never dismiss what he could be.

So there you have it he wants a better life at your expense…this is what they all want at our expense and don’t mind leaving a trail of broken women! Simply selfish!

 

[Imj]

So there you have it he wants a better life at your expense…this is what they all want at our expense and don’t mind leaving a trail of broken women! Simply selfish!

What I just find so hard is the fact the sister was and is ok with it.
I know they all would benefit from it but it’s all crazy mentality

 

[Sabrina]

What I just find so hard is the fact the sister was and is ok with it.
I know they all would benefit from it but it’s all crazy mentality

Sister, cousin the whole family, that’s it they would all benefit! Like they all benefit from the rats scamming a lot of money from their woman! Mine had a sister too and the whole family just loved me and the brothers gf from USA which they benefited more from her! May still be. They are all nuts. I say once you find any slither of truth or have a gut feeling RUN AND DONT LOOK BACK

 

[Butterflies]

What I just find so hard is the fact the sister was and is ok with it.
I know they all would benefit from it but it’s all crazy mentality

It's crazy, it's something we are not familiar with but in rat families it's normal. They are taking care of the son so he could get his visa and do or say whatever to achieve this goal.
Once I blocked the rat his sisters both tried to convince me he was a good man, an honest man and I should accept why he asked me for money and I should never betray him After all he was just a man who made a little mistake and I should just accept it, this was after I found all his texts to other women and asking them for money to

 

[Sabrina]

It's crazy, it's something we are not familiar with but in rat families it's normal. They are taking care of the son so he could get his visa and do or say whatever to achieve this goal.
Once I blocked the rat his sisters both tried to convince me he was a good man, an honest man and I should accept why he asked me for money and I should never betray him After all he was just a man who made a little mistake and I should just accept it, this was after I found all his texts to other women and asking them for money to

Guess the sisters had a lot of apologizing to do to all those women… YOU betray??? Of course

 

[Butterflies]

I appreciate all your input, honestly! The last thing I want is to put all my energy into someone for them to just be using me for personal gain. I’m still taking everything he’s said with a grain of salt, but I tried to catch him off guard today by telling him I found a guy on facebook that looks exactly like him, but he’s got a wife and I said “this isn’t actually you is it?” And he looked so puzzled and confused, the he said well unless I have a wife I don’t even know about then its definitely not me. And didn’t even ask for me to send s screenshot or show him or anything. I also tried asking him timeline questions a few days apart to see if his stories matched up, and sure enough they did.. I have such a good feeling about him being genuine, but then so many question marks after reading through these posts.

My rat sweared on the Quran he was an honest man ..... We are not Muslim so they can lie to us non Muslims, it will not affect their lives.
Once you open your eyes and listen to your gut that's when you want to know the truth

Guess the sisters had a lot of apologizing to do to all those women… YOU betray??? Of course

Yep I should not betray him (read between the lines meant :I should give him more money and provide him a visa) , he was already illegal in France and wanted to come to my country so we could marry and he would be legal in Europe. No way was I going to do that. I already was reading here so I knew "it" was a rat.
They started call me all sorts of names but I couldn't care less

 

[Astarisborn]

Guess the sisters had a lot of apologizing to do to all those women… YOU betray??? Of course

they are the worst, especially the mother who I thought was his grandmother at first
well I didn't know I had to ask haha she does an over the top performance as all loving you like a daughter
then to kicking your ass to the curb after they think the rat has you, well they took their
masks off too soon, ratty is not here to send ALL back home
the rat grinned from ear to ear with snide laughter it was sick to be honest
he thought he had it all, I was not sorry to disappoint the nasty ugly old dwarf booger rat
especially the nasty boogers in his large nose was a turn off haha
the lies they tell themselves like they are a celebrity and no pot to p8ss in haha
like he likened himself to Amr Diab

 

[Plantsandsuch]

It's great you keep your wits about you, despite having such a good feeling about him. Everyone that was scammed by a rat would have sworn up and down that their rat was their soulmate. Still you looked up TLR, whether because you had a gut feeling or because you heard some things about Tunisian rats.

I dunno if him declining to see the other profile makes him look good. Did you ask him about the timeline in his "original" profile?

This is gonna sound paradoxical so bear with me, but him acting cool as a cucumber is kinda odd because under "normal" circumstances he could have been disappointed that you don't trust him. Could be he was expecting scrutiny. On the other hand sometimes they do act all hurt to make their victims feel guilty for doubting... lol absurd doesn't even cover it right? Unpredictability is the rat MO though.

It sounds alarming you found someone who looks EXACTLY like him and rats can tell white lies to your face no problem. There's always reverse image search...
But what really set off my spidey (ratty?) sense. To be able to work on that cruise ship, he must have provided ties to his home country, and we know it's not employment:



A wife back home would totally fit the bill. However, if he used a marriage to get the visa, he would commit fraud if he tried to get to the US through you so I don't think that's possible because the US would know about it?
And then there's the fact that the average Tunisian man marries aged 33 (according to Google) sooo... it's entirely possible he's just not a rat.

Don't feel guilty for questioning him, this is just looking out for yourself. If he's not traditional would he be okay with not marrying? Where's he from in Tunisia?

To be clear I didn’t actually find another profile that looked like him, I just wanted him to think I did to see how he’d react. He has posts on Facebook saying things about “marrying a girl is not about traditions and age, it’s about real love and finding someone who understands you” and that was back in 2013.. he has similar things all throughout the profile. He’s also told me a little about his family and from what I know he is the youngest, he has 3 older brothers and an older sister. Him and one of his other brothers both aren’t married. I’ve asked him what he would like his future to look like before and he said “I would like to get married, buy a house, and have kids, but won’t get married until I feel like I have found the right one”. Since reading about their culture I figured I’d ask how he’d feel if he never found the right one, and he said “if I don’t find the right one, then I guess I will never marry”.

I also thought about him having to have good ties to get a C1D visa for the ship, but most cruise ship employees are younger and single. We got to know a lot of them, but yeah if he was married, I’d be no use to him to get into the country.

as I said, I’m still keeping him in the hot seat, but I genuinely hope that he ends up just not being a rat

 

[Imj]

To be clear I didn’t actually find another profile that looked like him, I just wanted him to think I did to see how he’d react. He has posts on Facebook saying things about “marrying a girl is not about traditions and age, it’s about real love and finding someone who understands you” and that was back in 2013.. he has similar things all throughout the profile. He’s also told me a little about his family and from what I know he is the youngest, he has 3 older brothers and an older sister. Him and one of his other brothers both aren’t married. I’ve asked him what he would like his future to look like before and he said “I would like to get married, buy a house, and have kids, but won’t get married until I feel like I have found the right one”. Since reading about their culture I figured I’d ask how he’d feel if he never found the right one, and he said “if I don’t find the right one, then I guess I will never marry”.

I also thought about him having to have good ties to get a C1D visa for the ship, but most cruise ship employees are younger and single. We got to know a lot of them, but yeah if he was married, I’d be no use to him to get into the country.

as I said, I’m still keeping him in the hot seat, but I genuinely hope that he ends up just not being a rat

I hope for you he’s not a rat
I knew my guy for 4 years as friends before we officially got together
Not once in those 4 years did I see or think anything to show me other than a good decent guy
A few boggles and doubts as is normal but that changed in a split second thursday
They really can and do hide everything
As I said earlier an old fb account which looked normal old account and an old one not used for a few years
But then finding 2 more nothing like his name
1 purely for his collection of girls over the years and one with only 4 friends with a couple being naughty pages
The moment you confront properly with proof and evidence it changes
I’m no longer Hobi I’m now F******g bitch, piece of pee, shit etc
Threats from the nephew I will cry when he’s finished with published photos and warning me to stay away, as if I want to be near them!!!
I’m physically sick and worried and scared and hurt and at breaking point
Never underestimate the low levels they go to and they really don’t care or have any remorse
They don’t see they do any wrong
Please keep a distance and look at everything!!!!!! x

 

[Dangerous Beans]

Oh I see lol. My bad, I've been wondering...

I'm afraid to say those ruses are no good, you're never going to beat a rat (if he is one) at their own game.
You're looking for more evidence that he's genuine but to be honest all what you've found doesn't amount to much because we're going to have to take his word for it.
The point still stands that he has a nonimmigrant visa and that means no option to work in the US. I guess those visas don't need too much paperwork but he had to prove some ties to his home country.
His idea to work in the US is most likely a pipe dream without a spouse in the US. And while you may be of no use to him if he's married, in that case he's already lied to you about being single.

 

[Moonshine]

I don’t post much.
I didn’t want to listen to all on here as I thought (like many) mine was different.
He wasn’t!!!
His fb was very normal, nothing to show red flags.
His family were not pushy, no love bombing.
Because of reading in here I was careful with leaving money about.
I heard the usual age is just a number. Of course my will accept you, they love you like family already, got called sis etc…
It’s all a lie.
it’s only when I really pushed and he got annoyed with me that he said if you don’t believe me have my fb log in and check for these lies
Well I didn’t see other girls etc (yes could of been deleted)
He knew I couldn’t read Tunisian so I took screen shots of his conversations and got them translated.
That’s when I found out the truth!!!
Please be careful.
I’ve had the weekend from hell twisting it all back onto me even tho I had proof of his lies in black and white.
The whole family will lie for them and back them up again even with proof.
Then they get nasty.
I’m building up courage to post in media because if I can stop just 1 woman falling for his game then it’s worth my pain x

This is what they do think u can't understand Arabic idiots translater as iv always said
They are stupid u look closer and u will find out the truth off rats
They can't cover up all their tracks
Or red flags
They are the most sickening arrogant bastards
When u find the truth out
They will try cover it up either lies after lies
Im So happy u found out tbe truth sooner rather than later
They expect u to bow to them treat them like gods
But in return u get nothing
It's all about them
Never give in to them
And when u find out the truth never ever allow them to lie so u forgive them
Walk walk walk without looking back !

 

[Butterflies]

I hope for you he’s not a rat
I knew my guy for 4 years as friends before we officially got together
Not once in those 4 years did I see or think anything to show me other than a good decent guy
A few boggles and doubts as is normal but that changed in a split second thursday
They really can and do hide everything
As I said earlier an old fb account which looked normal old account and an old one not used for a few years
But then finding 2 more nothing like his name
1 purely for his collection of girls over the years and one with only 4 friends with a couple being naughty pages
The moment you confront properly with proof and evidence it changes
I’m no longer Hobi I’m now F******g bitch, piece of pee, shit etc
Threats from the nephew I will cry when he’s finished with published photos and warning me to stay away, as if I want to be near them!!!
I’m physically sick and worried and scared and hurt and at breaking point
Never underestimate the low levels they go to and they really don’t care or have any remorse
They don’t see they do any wrong
Please keep a distance and look at everything!!!!!! x

I know what you mean @Imj being scared the rat will share pictures. You said there are no bad pictures so I hope there are no intimate pictures shared with him.
If it are decent pictures then he's only trying to scare you. Threatening you is what rats do, it's all they can do because they are on the other side of the ocean. There's no rat mafia only rat friends.
Being blackmailed with intimate pictures is horrible and scary but don't give into it if this happens.

 

[Imj]

I know what you mean @Imj being scared the rat will share pictures. You said there are no bad pictures so I hope there are no intimate pictures shared with him.
If it are decent pictures then he's only trying to scare you. Threatening you is what rats do, it's all they can do because they are on the other side of the ocean. There's no rat mafia only rat friends.
Being blackmailed with intimate pictures is horrible and scary but don't give into it if this happens.

No intimate pictures but he has pictures of my daughter and her children
Knowing how low they stoop I’m worried he will do something there
It’s just so hard. I’m angry at what he’s done, shocked at the level of the mentality, yet I miss the time we would video chat in the evening. That’s where it’s hardest.
I suppose it’s the wishing he was who he pretended to be as that was a nice guy
Struggling

 

[Sabrina]

I hope for you he’s not a rat
I knew my guy for 4 years as friends before we officially got together
Not once in those 4 years did I see or think anything to show me other than a good decent guy
A few boggles and doubts as is normal but that changed in a split second thursday
They really can and do hide everything
As I said earlier an old fb account which looked normal old account and an old one not used for a few years
But then finding 2 more nothing like his name
1 purely for his collection of girls over the years and one with only 4 friends with a couple being naughty pages
The moment you confront properly with proof and evidence it changes
I’m no longer Hobi I’m now F******g bitch, piece of pee, shit etc
Threats from the nephew I will cry when he’s finished with published photos and warning me to stay away, as if I want to be near them!!!
I’m physically sick and worried and scared and hurt and at breaking point
Never underestimate the low levels they go to and they really don’t care or have any remorse
They don’t see they do any wrong
Please keep a distance and look at everything!!!!!! x

You have every reason to be scared about the photos especially if they are intimate. They will use this against you. They are the scum of the earth and once you’ve found out their game and cut them free all hell breaks loose! And may I add they are very patient at their game meanwhile playing others too. I’m sorry me I have had my share of Tunisian men! I would never give another one the time of day and if you are here you have doubts, I would hold on to those doubts! Nothing gained and for sure nothing lost!

 

[Butterflies]

No intimate pictures but he has pictures of my daughter and her children
Knowing how low they stoop I’m worried he will do something there
It’s just so hard. I’m angry at what he’s done, shocked at the level of the mentality, yet I miss the time we would video chat in the evening. That’s where it’s hardest.
I suppose it’s the wishing he was who he pretended to be as that was a nice guy
Struggling

You are struggling and that's normal, we all know the feeling. This is the hardest part of letting go. Letting go of the dream he created in your head.
It was fake and all his video chats where premeditated and fake.
It's cruel what I will say now but rats laugh behind our back. They laugh of how naive we are
They are cruel rodents with no heart.
Get angry at him, don't let him threaten you with anything, he's not worth it he's just a scamming rat.

 

[Sabrina]

No intimate pictures but he has pictures of my daughter and her children
Knowing how low they stoop I’m worried he will do something there
It’s just so hard. I’m angry at what he’s done, shocked at the level of the mentality, yet I miss the time we would video chat in the evening. That’s where it’s hardest.
I suppose it’s the wishing he was who he pretended to be as that was a nice guy
Struggling

We all were do use to the time video chatting honestly it took a long time before I didn’t miss that. But just remember what a pos he REALLY is! He was never the guy he pretended to be. Time will pass and you will get used to not talking to him and honestly I can’t believe how I carried on so long looking at this darn phone with him on the other end!! It’s rather freeing

 

[Imj]

You are struggling and that's normal, we all know the feeling. This is the hardest part of letting go. Letting go of the dream he created in your head.
It was fake and all his video chats where premeditated and fake.
It's cruel what I will say now but rats laugh behind our back. They laugh of how naive we are
They are cruel rodents with no heart.
Get angry at him, don't let him threaten you with anything, he's not worth it he's just a scamming rat.

I think that’s one of the toughest parts.
Knowing they are laughing, they don’t care, no feeling, no remorse.
I can’t get my head around all I’ve learnt in the last 5 days, it’s destroying me

 

[Butterflies]

I think that’s one of the toughest parts.
Knowing they are laughing, they don’t care, no feeling, no remorse.
I can’t get my head around all I’ve learnt in the last 5 days, it’s destroying me

We all went through the same thing imj, we where looking through our rose tinted glasses. I'm sorry you are feeling so low it is overwhelming to find out the truth about the man you thought he was genuine. I hope you have support from your family or friends, they can help you get through this experience. For people who don't know anything about bezness its hard to understand how these men work. They are professional scammers who play cruel mind games

 

[Plantsandsuch]

I hope for you he’s not a rat
I knew my guy for 4 years as friends before we officially got together
Not once in those 4 years did I see or think anything to show me other than a good decent guy
A few boggles and doubts as is normal but that changed in a split second thursday
They really can and do hide everything
As I said earlier an old fb account which looked normal old account and an old one not used for a few years
But then finding 2 more nothing like his name
1 purely for his collection of girls over the years and one with only 4 friends with a couple being naughty pages
The moment you confront properly with proof and evidence it changes
I’m no longer Hobi I’m now F******g bitch, piece of pee, shit etc
Threats from the nephew I will cry when he’s finished with published photos and warning me to stay away, as if I want to be near them!!!
I’m physically sick and worried and scared and hurt and at breaking point
Never underestimate the low levels they go to and they really don’t care or have any remorse
They don’t see they do any wrong
Please keep a distance and look at everything!!!!!! x

I’m really so so sorry you are going through this.. i don’t have as much of experience as these other people, but I really do wish you all the best and all the happiness. I’m so beyond sorry, no one should have to go through this. Thank you for sharing your experiences with us and for showing me the possibilities of what could potentially stem from these men. I will definitely keep my heart guarded.