Illegal immigration from Tunisia. Tried or to be tried by Houssem Ktari/ Houssam Alktari.

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    Do the police ever scan any of the mug shots on TLR ? im sure they would find a few of use and it could be a valuable resourse maybe for the police . But for now im happy with you in your whoop whoop :thumbsup::Ninja::thumbsup::Ninja:
     
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    Do the police ever scan any of the mug shots on TLR ? im sure they would find a few of use and it could be a valuable resourse maybe for the police . But for now im happy with you in your whoop whoop :thumbsup::Ninja::thumbsup::Ninja:
     
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    Blimey, these lazy, shameless, greedy, deluded prostitutes never give up, do they :rolleyes:
    When the hell are these idiots gonna wake up to reality? The fools need to realise that life in our countries is damn hard, nothing comes for free and actually, the solution to their problem is to get their fat, lazy, shameless butts out of the coffee shops and look for employment in their own country! Desperadoes with no damn pride :Evil:I

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    Christ, it would put the fear of God in you if you were sat on a beach and this boat load of illegal trash turned up!! :eek::Evil::Evil:

    "Ghost boats" drop Tunisian migrants onto sunny Italian tourist beaches
    by Reuters
    Friday, 8 September 2017 16:38 GMT
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    Some 3,000 migrants, mostly men, have come from Tunisia in the past two months
    * Migrants mostly used to arrive at night

    * Change comes as arrival numbers from Tunisia increase

    * Libyan departures dropped dramatically over summer

    By Steve Scherer

    ROME, Sept 8 (Reuters) - The figures jumping from a small boat into the clear shallow waters and running ashore on an Italian beach look like troops practicing a D-Day-style landing, but this is no drill, and these are not soldiers.

    The images, caught on camera, show what has become a increasingly common sight on the beaches of Italy's southern islands - migrants from Africa landing in broad daylight.

    "In the past these boats came at night," said Claudio Lombardo, the local head of the Mareamico (Friend of the Sea) environmental group who filmed the scene on a beach near Agrigento in Sicily on Wednesday morning.

    "When they came at night, all you saw was the abandoned boat on the beach the next day and the people were nowhere to be found, and that's why we called them ghost boats."

    The change in tactic by people smugglers comes as the number of arrivals from Libya - long the busiest route for migrants from Africa trying to reach the European Union - have plummeted since departures from the coastal city of Sabratha were stopped by a shadowy armed group this summer.

    As Libyan departures slumped, wooden boats from neighbouring Tunisia have started landing on secluded Sicilian beaches, often in broad daylight while tourists are out sunbathing, an official leading the investigation into the arrivals told Reuters.

    Some 3,000 migrants, mostly men, have come from Tunisia in the past two months, with between 1,500-1,800 landing on the south coast of Sicily, and the rest on the smaller islands of Lampedusa or Linosa, said the local investigator, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

    It is still fewer than the Libyan arrivals, which totalled well over 10,000 over the past two months, but such numbers have not been seen since Tunisia's "Arab Spring" revolution in 2010 and 2011, said Lombardo, whose priority is to protect beaches from damage caused by the abandoned boats and belongings.

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    Those who reached the smaller islands have almost all been identified by police, while between 20 to 40 percent of those who made it to Sicily vanished without trace, the official said.

    Almost all are Tunisians, and some had already been expelled from Italy in the past, the investigator said. The Agrigento court is looking to see if smugglers pick them up upon arrival in Italy.

    "We're more concerned about the ones who try to flee because perhaps they could have problems with the law either in Tunisia or Italy," he said.

    As for the 50-or-so filmed by Lombardo, they climbed up into the dry hills beyond the beach and headed inland, discarding T-shirts and shoes.

    "They have a kit with them, which is a bag with a change of clothes, and bottles of water and milk," Lombardo said. "Within 30 minutes, they disappear. They're gone."

    Police pick up many found walking along roads, the investigator said. On Thursday, one young Tunisian man was killed by a car in a hit-and-run near Agrigento.

    While some of the boats are big enough to make the more than 200-km (125-mile) crossing from Tunisia, some are very small, raising questions about how they got there.

    "We have not excluded the existence of mother ships," the investigator said, referring to large fishing boats used in the past to ferry migrants close to the coast before putting them onto smaller boats for the last leg of the voyage.

    (Reporting by Steve Scherer; Editing by Robin Pomeroy)
     
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    Regardless of what is thought of Trump.....I'd buy the bloke a beer for this :D
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    Escaping from Tunisia
    Commentary

    Stefano M. Torelli
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    10th November, 2017

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    Explaining the recent spike in migration from Tunisia to Europe

    Over the past few weeks Tunisia has attracted increasing attention for the revival of its migration route toward Italy. 4,500 people from Tunisia reached Italy in 2017 – a fourfold increase on last year, with more than 3,000 arriving between September and mid-October.

    A host of false claims have been made about the reasons for this recent spike in Tunisian arrivals, which this article seeks to dispel. The analysis here suggests that the primary cause for the uptick is Tunisia’s deepening socio-economic and political challenges.

    This makes it hard to see how Tunisia could become a key partner in managing migration coming from sub-Saharan Africa, as some Europeans suggest. Rather, the new data shows that Tunisia is in fact still an origin, rather than a transit, country.

    Myth 1: The spike in arrivals from Tunisia is due to the Italy-Libya deal that restricted migration from Libya

    Generally speaking, it’s true that migration flows change in response to counter-measures: close one route, another one opens up. But this particular claim does not ring true. While migrants arriving through Libya are mostly sub-Saharan Africans and Bangladeshis, the ones arriving from Tunisia are mostly Tunisians. As such there is little correlation between the Italian-Libyan agreement and the rise of arrivals from Tunisia.

    Myth 2: The spike represents an influx of terrorists pardoned by the Tunisian president

    Every year the Tunisian President pardons a number of people detained for minor crimes. Last year President Essebsi pardoned 1,538 prisoners, but only 412 of these have been released thus far. Many of those pardoned were jailed for soft drug use (such offences account for around one quarter of Tunisia’s prison population), and certainly none were convicted of terror-related crimes.

    The pardons are thus clearly insufficient to explain the increase of thousands of Tunisian migrants. This myth is rather a classic example of nativist scaremongering, falsely linking migrants with criminals and terrorists.

    Myth 3: The spike is due to Tunisian authorities letting more migrants through in order to extract more money from Italy in exchange for stricter controls

    There is little evidence for this claim. The Tunisian government is actively fighting illegal migration, and has arrested close to 1400 illegal migrants this year. Moreover, Tunisia has already signed agreements with Italy to regulate migration and facilitate returns.

    Myth 4: Italy is facing a new invasion

    The numbers of Tunisians arriving in Italy are certainly rapidly increasing. In September and October more than twice as many Tunisians arrived in Italy as arrived in the first eight months of the year.

    Still, these numbers are nothing compared to the influx of more than 25,000 Tunisians in 2011, nor compared with the total arrivals in Italy this year (so far 114,062, mostly from West African countries).

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    The current volume of migrants should not be underestimated, but the figures do not justify overreactions by the government or public, which are driven more by populist campaigning than the facts.

    Myth 5: Tunisia would make an ideal partner for processing African migrants attempting to reach Europe

    The idea that Tunisia could serve as a hub for European 'hotspot’ processing centres for sub-Saharan migrants is often discussed in European meetings on migration. Tunisia has been described as the perfect partner, in contrast with Libya, Egypt and Algeria, which all have significant human rights issues.

    But Tunisia, too, has major problems when it comes to refugee and migration policies: it simply doesn’t have any legal framework regulating the status of refugees and asylum seekers. NGOs and humanitarian associations, among them the UNHCR, have continuously called for a law on the issue, and its absence surely represents an obstacle to a common policy of asylum.

    Moreover, Tunisian society is already characterised by widespread economic and political discontent. A policy aimed at hosting – even temporarily – large numbers of sub-Saharan migrants in Tunisia could exacerbate unrest and lead to crisis.

    Reality: Why are so many Tunisians migrating right now?

    Tunisia’s domestic path is full of obstacles and difficulties, which are the real cause of the latest spike in emigration. The already critical socio-economic situation deteriorated sharply over recent months. The dinar has devalued by more than 25% during the last year.

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    The most evident effect of this is the unprecedented rise in consumer prices, with some basic commodities inflated by more than 15%.

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    Unemployment is still at more than 15%, with an even higher rate among recent graduates.

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    Corruption has also returned as one of the worst plagues of the country: salaries for public officials like policemen are low - around €300/month - and this makes it easier for officials to be corrupted, as in the case of some border officials.

    Moreover, the fishing industry, especially in the area of Kerkennah (whose el-Attaya port is a key departure point for migrants), has been hit by an invasion of a particularly aggressive species of blue crab, nicknamed “Daesh” on account of its threat to fishermen’s livelihoods. Thus, many fishermen have sold their boats to smugglers’ networks, contributing in part to the surge in Tunisian departures.

    Economic crisis, low salaries, few job opportunities, corruption and damage to traditional industries are thus the root causes of this renewed wave of migration from Tunisia to Italy.

    How should Europe respond?

    The EU should therefore focus its energies on supporting Tunisian socio-economic development. What is urgently needed is a clear political vision putting Tunisia at the centre of its Mediterranean agenda. One of the mistakes of recent years has been the EU’s tendencies to sing the praises of Tunisian democratization. True, it has achieved a good level of procedural democracy, but there are still many critical problems related to the economy and political instability.

    While US policy in Tunisia is almost exclusively focused on security (the Trump administration plans to cut aid for Tunisia from over $177 million per year in 2017 to $54.5 million by 2018), Europe has the opportunity to choose a more holistic strategy. Investments should be made in micro-projects aimed at developing the most remote areas that still suffer from lack of access to basic services, in programmes aimed at reforming Tunisia’s bureaucracy and its security sector, and in incentives for the creation of new mechanisms of governance.

    Creating a law on asylum is one of the most urgent measures that Tunis should undertake in order to better coordinate its efforts with European partners. But Europe should acknowledge that Tunisia is currently too fragile to serve as an effective migration partner at this stage.



    Read more on: European Power,Migration,The Middle East and North Africa,North Africa,Tunisia
     
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    I'll wear my penis for the day :D
    None of the people that need it see one dinar of that money, it does nothing but line the pockets of corrupt officials...so I'm glad he is cutting the amount so much. I wouldn't mind if it was spent where it was needed...but it isn't!
     
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    President Trump’s proposed budget, which cuts financial aid to Tunisia, not only represents a stark departure from the president’s plan to “demolish and destroy” the so-called Islamic State (ISIS), but could have dangerous consequences for Americans and our allies.

    Slashing military aid to a country on the front lines with ISIS is both misguided and dangerous. The proposed cut is one of the more troubling aspects of Trump’s foreign aid budget, which decreases bilateral aid to Tunisia by 67 percent.

    U.S. and European assistance has not only provided essential equipment for the Tunisian police and military, but also helped professionalize the security forces and train them in counter-terrorism tactics. This support has allowed Tunisia to build a partial border wall with Libya to prevent smuggling of goods and people.

    Given all of Tunisia’s challenges, it is clear that Tunisia’s security assistance needs remain as high today as they have ever been.

    http://carnegieendowment.org/2017/06/20/we-need-tunisia-in-fight-against-isis-pub-71311
     
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    It isn't all military aid:
    Tunisia will still be getting £54.5 million per annum.
    In my opinion, this is a better way to invest the money...spend it on the real people, fix the country.
    If Tunisia was receiving $177 million per annum until now....why hasn't it used it wisely instead of lining the pockets of corrupt officials?
    It was receiving big enough donations from America alone to have made changes....and let's not forget all the other countries that give them millions per annum in handouts!
    In a country so corrupt, the money is not spent where it is needed, be that military, education, health, agriculture etc....so why send it?
    I wish hardship on nobody....but those struggling are not benefiting from these loans and handouts... and the country is still a mass of jihadists and sympathisers who have infiltrated at every level.
     
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    Tunisia is corrupt, the presidant will be lining his pockets but i fear hes cutting the money so many tunisian police. Army will lose their jobs this isnt good when trying to fight isis. If this happens then isis will take over and tunisia will become another country that people are forced to live in under that regime.
    Its heart breaking enough that so many men are being killed daily just so they can fight to keep them out and these men are fighting and dying for a pittance.
     
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    ISIS have infiltrated Tunisia on every level, from government officials to the law, from Imams to rats, any money sent to that country will either directly or indirectly make its way into the hands of the very terrorists we are trying to defeat....this is unavoidable, as once the cash is handed over, those countries have little to no control over where it is invested.
    The only way to destroy terrorists and rats alike is to cut off their supply.....money! No trading, no holidays, no nothing until the bigger issue has been adequately dealt with. Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind, it's wicked, but sometimes there is just no other way.
     
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    This is your opinion and your entitled to it as i am mine
     
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    This is my opinion:
    And this is my opinion:
    But this is fact:
    https://www.hate-speech.org/new-report-the-ticking-jihadist-timebomb/

    With regards to this post by yourself:
    I agree with every word, at no point have I disagreed with it, but it is a fact that ISIS have infiltrated at every level and that some of the money is going into enemy hands.....and that sometimes you've gotta be cruel to be kind.
    The real people that need foreign help are not seeing a penny of it, in fact, with rising costs of food, petrol etc and no pay rise, the real Tunisian people face more hardship anyway....yet all that money was being donated, so where has it gone?
    Ha, what happened to the recipes? :D:D
     
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