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Moonshine

Major Ratslayer
Haven't we all had the crying face the suicides attempts the pretending pain in their heart
The headaches the fighting all because off us and they want sympathy and us to care for them its a put on !!

But wait when they abuse us and scream at us and let one tear trickle down our cheeks go to sleep if u cry don't bother me your tears you make yourself cry go go now !!
That's the ####### mentality off the rats
 

Chili_Peppers

Major Ratslayer
He was so genuine. The way he looked at me, I don't think you could pretend that. He has sobbed and sobbed with me, you can't make that up surely. May be I'm just kidding myself.
Ooohhh believe me dear, you'd be surprised at just how much those filthy scum can pretend....my "husband" pretended the entire 8 year marriage....pretended all through my chemo treatments...with big old crocodile tears and everything......and just to give you a heads up...mine never asked for money either
 

Moonshine

Major Ratslayer
When u see he's hardly online and he closes regularly or can only call u in coffee because he says he has no money for data
U send the money and still not much data he says
He gets his wages still hardly online
But u wait till u finish the relationship or u argue
Suddenly from Nowhere he's ative 24,/7 wtf
So yeah add all these up and much more and he's 100% a rat wether Algerian Tunisian Egyptian ect
The tricks they pull the red flags they pull out
If your in Tunisian love rats asking questions then you've had the red flags you don't trust and ur gut feeling is telling u something isn't right
Then you know in your self he's a rat!!!
 

Fleur1

Major Ratslayer
When u see he's hardly online and he closes regularly or can only call u in coffee because he says he has no money for data
U send the money and still not much data he says
He gets his wages still hardly online
But u wait till u finish the relationship or u argue
Suddenly from Nowhere he's ative 24,/7 wtf
So yeah add all these up and much more and he's 100% a rat wether Algerian Tunisian Egyptian ect
The tricks they pull the red flags they pull out
If your in Tunisian love rats asking questions then you've had the red flags you don't trust and ur gut feeling is telling u something isn't right
Then you know in your self he's a rat!!!
Yeah, that old garbage about having no phone data !!!!!!!!!! They’re 2-faced LIARS !!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Moonshine

Major Ratslayer
And are they really crying?
No but they demand u come on this flight or we are over
U are here tomorrow or its over
Wtf
But u only came home 2 weeks ago
And then they give u a long list off more gifts
Wtf again
But yet spend there money on drink drink more drink cigarettes more cigarettes with ratty mates
But expect 5* hotel 5* treatment 5* phone 5* gifts 5* amount off money
But what u get no stars
Ffs the rats truly think they are Saudia Arabian princes hahaha
No chance mate more like dirty scrounging vermin !!!!
 

Moonshine

Major Ratslayer
I'm doing a little better, thank you for asking about me....I decided to stay the course with my degree and I'm grateful that college work is keeping my mind busy...I know it's going to be really hard to get through this first holiday season without them...not even sure I want to celebrate Christmas this year
U celebrate Christmas off freedom
Put the rat ar the back off your head don't even think off it no more
Your free under no control and happy
Keep it that way
They are rats for a reason to destroy you
But the rat didn't destroy us they made us stronger
Good luck chili peppers xxxx
 

Sabrina

Major Ratslayer
I'm doing a little better, thank you for asking about me....I decided to stay the course with my degree and I'm grateful that college work is keeping my mind busy...I know it's going to be really hard to get through this first holiday season without them...not even sure I want to celebrate Christmas this year
Understandable @Chili_Peppers but I hope it’s not too hard on you the holidays are the worse! I’m not fond of those holidays either I just have to remind myself the reason for the season..I know it’s hard on a lot of people for many different reasons. We’re here for you and hopefully you have at least a couple of good friends to lean on❤️
 

March

Major Ratslayer
Hi, its taken me a lot of courage to post this, as I'm not sure I want the answers!! Anyway, my story.

May 2020 in the midst of lockdown, one Saturday afternoon I got an FB message from a guy in Algeria. I was bored, I was doing the housework, my husband and I weren't getting on, so I thought sod it, I'll answer this absolutely devastatingly handsome young chap! (and this is something that I never ever would normally have done). Anyway, his name is Nourredine, he's from Algeria, (already the red flags were waving at me) He said he was 27, I told him I was 45 (I was 50, but do look younger) we chatted for a couple of hours and then I had to meet my friends online for drinks (remember those days :) ). He carried on texting me all evening, as I slowly drank lots of gin. We video called in the early hours and gosh I'd never seen such beautiful big brown eyes, I was completely besotted with him. So this went on the next day, it was so exciting, I found myself waiting for his reply, and he seemed to feel the same. And so started this wonderful love affair.
By day 4 he was saying how we should meet, me being ignorant about visas said oh you will have to come here, as I can't go to Algeria without my husband knowing, he said its not that easy, I need a Visa, I was like Oh? even for a holiday? He said yes, it was hard to get one unless there was someone who could help him, someone like me. Alarm bells set off in my head and I didn't speak to him for a couple of hours. I said to him oh thats what you want is it, a visa? He was like no no no, its not like that at all. What do I want a visa for? I only want to meet you, I don't want a visa. You come here then, f**k visas. So I decided I needed to be cautious, and whenever I mentioned it again he got very upset. So I didn't.
Next flag - I was checking his About info on FB. He was following hundreds of very well endowed english girls on FB, but none of them were on his friends list. And a Lot of them hadn't posted anything other than profile pics for about 3 years. When I asked him about it he said oh I did that when I was a kid, I don't know any of them, honestly I don't. So he unfollowed them all.
Third flag - I was practically stalking his FB, trying to find out more about him, looking at photos etc., when on his FB wall in 2018 (so 2 years earlier) was a happy birthday message from some woman called Leanne. She looked years older than me. He had replied to her message with a thank you. I asked him who she was. He denied knowing her, couldn't remember having a message from her. Said he didn't know her, he had no clue, he must have friended her years ago, along with all the others. He unfriended her. (his friends list has always been hidden) but he offered me his password to check his FB profile. I declined, as I didn't want to look. Anyway, I gave him the benefit of the doubt (more because I was enjoying spending time with him, and it broke up the tedium of lockdown) and moved on. Never mentioned it again, but it did niggle away at me.

Anyway, about 3 weeks in he told me he loved me. and it was love bomb central. but I loved it. I relished it. I felt fabulous. Then we realised we were both lying about our age. He was actually 21 ! (so 30 years younger :eek: but we move ahem...) He had a very old mobile and had to keep leaving me to go and charge it up, so I offered to buy him a new one, he never asked me, never asked for money, I offered. It was a whole experience getting it to him without my husband's knowledge but I did it. He was so very grateful, he made a video of him opening his parcel when it arrived, his whole family stood and watched him open this mysterious parcel. In July 2020 his brother had seen his phone screen with love hearts etc., so he asked him about it. Nourredine told him about me and his brother said he would give him some money so he could come to meet me in england, if that was what he wanted. He was so happy he facetimed me with his brother - but this is the only time I ever "met" any of his family. I was a secret from his mother, and his other brothers and his sisters.
And this relationship continued all through 2020, all through 2021. He tried, really really hard, to get a job here, a training course, anything. (he's an electrician, and he's very clever, he could speak english when we met but now his english his just brilliant and he has a slight birmingham accent that he picked up from me ha ha). We spent hours together, on video call, texting, telephone calls, everything. We fell in love, utterly in love. September 2021 he realised he was never going to get a job that he could move here to do. I couldn't even help him get a visitor visa because my husband would probably have found out, I wasn't sure how i could keep it a secret, since you have to write a letter saying you're inviting him, he needed somewhere to stay and it was just too complicated. He kept asking me to come to him. He would look at me through the camera and say I love you, I want to be with you, come to me. just come to me. It broke my heart. I adored him. We finished each other's sentences, we knew each other inside and out.

Anyway, things changed this year. He started to become distant, didn't spend as much time on the phone with me, said he was tired all the time and sleeping. Then in March after a few weeks of this, he said his mother had told him he had to get married, he was the last brother who was single, his sister was getting married and as she was moving out his mother needed another wife in the house to help with cooking etc. His other brothers all lived in apartments built upstairs, and they had their own families. So he had to do this as he would still live downstairs with his new wife, he couldn't afford to build upstairs. He was meant to be getting engaged to his 18 yr old cousin. He said he said no, he wasn't doing it. He didn't want to marry her. He said none of his family would talk to him, he couldnt buy internet on his own and his brothers wouldn't give him their share because they weren't speaking to him so we had weeks of no communication. I tried desperately to get him to talk to me, but he wouldn't. Then he would come back and say he was so sorry for treating me like this. This went on and on and on. I was heart broken. But he would come back, it would be "normal" for a couple of days then he would disappear again. Finally in July he told them no. It wasn't ever happening. He was too young to get married. But he never really came back to me. i don't understand why if he wasn't getting engaged and he had said no, then why not still be with me? He has now blocked me on every social media app, all except whatsapp. We spoke a week last saturday and he said he had been trying to get me to hate him so I would leave him. He said he wanted to leave but he couldn't. I persuaded him to stay. He said he still loved me and he was so sorry for hurting me. I told him I would leave my husband but he had to give me time. Then last week he suddenly had no internet again, although my whatsapp messages all had two ticks on them, so they had been delivered. he text every day to say he didn't have the money but he could text me from his neighbours internet just to say hello and he would buy the internet on thursday. He did. He spoke to me on friday. We had a video call. everything was fine. I haven't heard from him since 1.15 last friday afternoon. He has looked at whatsapp once since then, on monday. He obviously has me in archive or he's just ignoring me, I'm not sure. He won't answer the phone or read my messages. He's just gone. But he hasn't blocked me.

Three other times last year we broke up, once by me, and twice by him. We spent hours on video call crying together saying goodbye and then we would change our minds and the next day be back together. This time he won't even say goodbye. So my question is does this sound familiar? Does this follow a pattern? Am I just being ridiculous? Thank you if you have read this far!!
I know one very pretty, young girl from Moscow, she married a guy from Algeria, but he did not live with her for long, he returned to his country forever, so he said
 

Moonshine

Major Ratslayer
Hi, its taken me a lot of courage to post this, as I'm not sure I want the answers!! Anyway, my story.

May 2020 in the midst of lockdown, one Saturday afternoon I got an FB message from a guy in Algeria. I was bored, I was doing the housework, my husband and I weren't getting on, so I thought sod it, I'll answer this absolutely devastatingly handsome young chap! (and this is something that I never ever would normally have done). Anyway, his name is Nourredine, he's from Algeria, (already the red flags were waving at me) He said he was 27, I told him I was 45 (I was 50, but do look younger) we chatted for a couple of hours and then I had to meet my friends online for drinks (remember those days :) ). He carried on texting me all evening, as I slowly drank lots of gin. We video called in the early hours and gosh I'd never seen such beautiful big brown eyes, I was completely besotted with him. So this went on the next day, it was so exciting, I found myself waiting for his reply, and he seemed to feel the same. And so started this wonderful love affair.
By day 4 he was saying how we should meet, me being ignorant about visas said oh you will have to come here, as I can't go to Algeria without my husband knowing, he said its not that easy, I need a Visa, I was like Oh? even for a holiday? He said yes, it was hard to get one unless there was someone who could help him, someone like me. Alarm bells set off in my head and I didn't speak to him for a couple of hours. I said to him oh thats what you want is it, a visa? He was like no no no, its not like that at all. What do I want a visa for? I only want to meet you, I don't want a visa. You come here then, f**k visas. So I decided I needed to be cautious, and whenever I mentioned it again he got very upset. So I didn't.
Next flag - I was checking his About info on FB. He was following hundreds of very well endowed english girls on FB, but none of them were on his friends list. And a Lot of them hadn't posted anything other than profile pics for about 3 years. When I asked him about it he said oh I did that when I was a kid, I don't know any of them, honestly I don't. So he unfollowed them all.
Third flag - I was practically stalking his FB, trying to find out more about him, looking at photos etc., when on his FB wall in 2018 (so 2 years earlier) was a happy birthday message from some woman called Leanne. She looked years older than me. He had replied to her message with a thank you. I asked him who she was. He denied knowing her, couldn't remember having a message from her. Said he didn't know her, he had no clue, he must have friended her years ago, along with all the others. He unfriended her. (his friends list has always been hidden) but he offered me his password to check his FB profile. I declined, as I didn't want to look. Anyway, I gave him the benefit of the doubt (more because I was enjoying spending time with him, and it broke up the tedium of lockdown) and moved on. Never mentioned it again, but it did niggle away at me.

Anyway, about 3 weeks in he told me he loved me. and it was love bomb central. but I loved it. I relished it. I felt fabulous. Then we realised we were both lying about our age. He was actually 21 ! (so 30 years younger :eek: but we move ahem...) He had a very old mobile and had to keep leaving me to go and charge it up, so I offered to buy him a new one, he never asked me, never asked for money, I offered. It was a whole experience getting it to him without my husband's knowledge but I did it. He was so very grateful, he made a video of him opening his parcel when it arrived, his whole family stood and watched him open this mysterious parcel. In July 2020 his brother had seen his phone screen with love hearts etc., so he asked him about it. Nourredine told him about me and his brother said he would give him some money so he could come to meet me in england, if that was what he wanted. He was so happy he facetimed me with his brother - but this is the only time I ever "met" any of his family. I was a secret from his mother, and his other brothers and his sisters.
And this relationship continued all through 2020, all through 2021. He tried, really really hard, to get a job here, a training course, anything. (he's an electrician, and he's very clever, he could speak english when we met but now his english his just brilliant and he has a slight birmingham accent that he picked up from me ha ha). We spent hours together, on video call, texting, telephone calls, everything. We fell in love, utterly in love. September 2021 he realised he was never going to get a job that he could move here to do. I couldn't even help him get a visitor visa because my husband would probably have found out, I wasn't sure how i could keep it a secret, since you have to write a letter saying you're inviting him, he needed somewhere to stay and it was just too complicated. He kept asking me to come to him. He would look at me through the camera and say I love you, I want to be with you, come to me. just come to me. It broke my heart. I adored him. We finished each other's sentences, we knew each other inside and out.

Anyway, things changed this year. He started to become distant, didn't spend as much time on the phone with me, said he was tired all the time and sleeping. Then in March after a few weeks of this, he said his mother had told him he had to get married, he was the last brother who was single, his sister was getting married and as she was moving out his mother needed another wife in the house to help with cooking etc. His other brothers all lived in apartments built upstairs, and they had their own families. So he had to do this as he would still live downstairs with his new wife, he couldn't afford to build upstairs. He was meant to be getting engaged to his 18 yr old cousin. He said he said no, he wasn't doing it. He didn't want to marry her. He said none of his family would talk to him, he couldnt buy internet on his own and his brothers wouldn't give him their share because they weren't speaking to him so we had weeks of no communication. I tried desperately to get him to talk to me, but he wouldn't. Then he would come back and say he was so sorry for treating me like this. This went on and on and on. I was heart broken. But he would come back, it would be "normal" for a couple of days then he would disappear again. Finally in July he told them no. It wasn't ever happening. He was too young to get married. But he never really came back to me. i don't understand why if he wasn't getting engaged and he had said no, then why not still be with me? He has now blocked me on every social media app, all except whatsapp. We spoke a week last saturday and he said he had been trying to get me to hate him so I would leave him. He said he wanted to leave but he couldn't. I persuaded him to stay. He said he still loved me and he was so sorry for hurting me. I told him I would leave my husband but he had to give me time. Then last week he suddenly had no internet again, although my whatsapp messages all had two ticks on them, so they had been delivered. he text every day to say he didn't have the money but he could text me from his neighbours internet just to say hello and he would buy the internet on thursday. He did. He spoke to me on friday. We had a video call. everything was fine. I haven't heard from him since 1.15 last friday afternoon. He has looked at whatsapp once since then, on monday. He obviously has me in archive or he's just ignoring me, I'm not sure. He won't answer the phone or read my messages. He's just gone. But he hasn't blocked me.

Three other times last year we broke up, once by me, and twice by him. We spent hours on video call crying together saying goodbye and then we would change our minds and the next day be back together. This time he won't even say goodbye. So my question is does this sound familiar? Does this follow a pattern? Am I just being ridiculous? Thank you if you have read this far!!
Oh wow the good old neighbours Internet I thought only my rat used that lie
And u know with data providers in Tunisia u can turn off calls and messages to an individual person
But they will still get notifications off the call coming in
And u will see many will put u to ignore but will absolutely deny they have although u know
He's on line he's In the chat line up but your messages are not even being delivered and your calls won't go through
U honestly find more out about rats tricks in fb messages when ur in a relationship with them
But if they were honest u wouldn't gave to do this
They lie to cover up lie
And even if u have proof they will accuse u off stalking them wtf
The object here is money
Sooner or later this is what they hint at
And he knows you'r married if he was a respected Algerian man he would never ever go near a married woman ever
So all he says to u is lies lies and more lies !!!
He's using the old rat handbook to give u silent so u miss him worry about him
And use this emotional off u worrying for his Oscar winning act off asking for money sob story
We all had it
All what u say has happened to us its typical rat behaviour and rules
Just block him hes playing games and ur going to get seriously hurt!
 

Kate

Ratslayer
Hi, its taken me a lot of courage to post this, as I'm not sure I want the answers!! Anyway, my story.

May 2020 in the midst of lockdown, one Saturday afternoon I got an FB message from a guy in Algeria. I was bored, I was doing the housework, my husband and I weren't getting on, so I thought sod it, I'll answer this absolutely devastatingly handsome young chap! (and this is something that I never ever would normally have done). Anyway, his name is Nourredine, he's from Algeria, (already the red flags were waving at me) He said he was 27, I told him I was 45 (I was 50, but do look younger) we chatted for a couple of hours and then I had to meet my friends online for drinks (remember those days :) ). He carried on texting me all evening, as I slowly drank lots of gin. We video called in the early hours and gosh I'd never seen such beautiful big brown eyes, I was completely besotted with him. So this went on the next day, it was so exciting, I found myself waiting for his reply, and he seemed to feel the same. And so started this wonderful love affair.
By day 4 he was saying how we should meet, me being ignorant about visas said oh you will have to come here, as I can't go to Algeria without my husband knowing, he said its not that easy, I need a Visa, I was like Oh? even for a holiday? He said yes, it was hard to get one unless there was someone who could help him, someone like me. Alarm bells set off in my head and I didn't speak to him for a couple of hours. I said to him oh thats what you want is it, a visa? He was like no no no, its not like that at all. What do I want a visa for? I only want to meet you, I don't want a visa. You come here then, f**k visas. So I decided I needed to be cautious, and whenever I mentioned it again he got very upset. So I didn't.
Next flag - I was checking his About info on FB. He was following hundreds of very well endowed english girls on FB, but none of them were on his friends list. And a Lot of them hadn't posted anything other than profile pics for about 3 years. When I asked him about it he said oh I did that when I was a kid, I don't know any of them, honestly I don't. So he unfollowed them all.
Third flag - I was practically stalking his FB, trying to find out more about him, looking at photos etc., when on his FB wall in 2018 (so 2 years earlier) was a happy birthday message from some woman called Leanne. She looked years older than me. He had replied to her message with a thank you. I asked him who she was. He denied knowing her, couldn't remember having a message from her. Said he didn't know her, he had no clue, he must have friended her years ago, along with all the others. He unfriended her. (his friends list has always been hidden) but he offered me his password to check his FB profile. I declined, as I didn't want to look. Anyway, I gave him the benefit of the doubt (more because I was enjoying spending time with him, and it broke up the tedium of lockdown) and moved on. Never mentioned it again, but it did niggle away at me.

Anyway, about 3 weeks in he told me he loved me. and it was love bomb central. but I loved it. I relished it. I felt fabulous. Then we realised we were both lying about our age. He was actually 21 ! (so 30 years younger :eek: but we move ahem...) He had a very old mobile and had to keep leaving me to go and charge it up, so I offered to buy him a new one, he never asked me, never asked for money, I offered. It was a whole experience getting it to him without my husband's knowledge but I did it. He was so very grateful, he made a video of him opening his parcel when it arrived, his whole family stood and watched him open this mysterious parcel. In July 2020 his brother had seen his phone screen with love hearts etc., so he asked him about it. Nourredine told him about me and his brother said he would give him some money so he could come to meet me in england, if that was what he wanted. He was so happy he facetimed me with his brother - but this is the only time I ever "met" any of his family. I was a secret from his mother, and his other brothers and his sisters.
And this relationship continued all through 2020, all through 2021. He tried, really really hard, to get a job here, a training course, anything. (he's an electrician, and he's very clever, he could speak english when we met but now his english his just brilliant and he has a slight birmingham accent that he picked up from me ha ha). We spent hours together, on video call, texting, telephone calls, everything. We fell in love, utterly in love. September 2021 he realised he was never going to get a job that he could move here to do. I couldn't even help him get a visitor visa because my husband would probably have found out, I wasn't sure how i could keep it a secret, since you have to write a letter saying you're inviting him, he needed somewhere to stay and it was just too complicated. He kept asking me to come to him. He would look at me through the camera and say I love you, I want to be with you, come to me. just come to me. It broke my heart. I adored him. We finished each other's sentences, we knew each other inside and out.

Anyway, things changed this year. He started to become distant, didn't spend as much time on the phone with me, said he was tired all the time and sleeping. Then in March after a few weeks of this, he said his mother had told him he had to get married, he was the last brother who was single, his sister was getting married and as she was moving out his mother needed another wife in the house to help with cooking etc. His other brothers all lived in apartments built upstairs, and they had their own families. So he had to do this as he would still live downstairs with his new wife, he couldn't afford to build upstairs. He was meant to be getting engaged to his 18 yr old cousin. He said he said no, he wasn't doing it. He didn't want to marry her. He said none of his family would talk to him, he couldnt buy internet on his own and his brothers wouldn't give him their share because they weren't speaking to him so we had weeks of no communication. I tried desperately to get him to talk to me, but he wouldn't. Then he would come back and say he was so sorry for treating me like this. This went on and on and on. I was heart broken. But he would come back, it would be "normal" for a couple of days then he would disappear again. Finally in July he told them no. It wasn't ever happening. He was too young to get married. But he never really came back to me. i don't understand why if he wasn't getting engaged and he had said no, then why not still be with me? He has now blocked me on every social media app, all except whatsapp. We spoke a week last saturday and he said he had been trying to get me to hate him so I would leave him. He said he wanted to leave but he couldn't. I persuaded him to stay. He said he still loved me and he was so sorry for hurting me. I told him I would leave my husband but he had to give me time. Then last week he suddenly had no internet again, although my whatsapp messages all had two ticks on them, so they had been delivered. he text every day to say he didn't have the money but he could text me from his neighbours internet just to say hello and he would buy the internet on thursday. He did. He spoke to me on friday. We had a video call. everything was fine. I haven't heard from him since 1.15 last friday afternoon. He has looked at whatsapp once since then, on monday. He obviously has me in archive or he's just ignoring me, I'm not sure. He won't answer the phone or read my messages. He's just gone. But he hasn't blocked me.

Three other times last year we broke up, once by me, and twice by him. We spent hours on video call crying together saying goodbye and then we would change our minds and the next day be back together. This time he won't even say goodbye. So my question is does this sound familiar? Does this follow a pattern? Am I just being ridiculous? Thank you if you have read this far!!
Oh dear, I’m sorry to say there’s a 99% chance he is a rat. It’s all textbook behaviour.
Many things you mentioned were similar to other stories here.
Trust me: they can fake the love.
The way they gaze in to your eyes. I now know that little smile he had when he looked at me was actually a smirk. It was a job for him.

I know it feels incredible to fall in love again after all these years. To feel the excitement. The connection. But it’s one sided. They are playing us.

Even if he was genuine, there is no hope.
His parents would never accept such a relationship (unless they were in on it too, which is often the case with Tunisians, I don’t know about Algerians).
Would you marry a man in his early 20’s in your own country? Even in his 30’s? Probably not. And for good reason.

He is either too busy working on other women. Or maybe he did get married, and had to give up on his goals.
Interesting that he has blocked you. I would say that’s either due to hiding you from other women, or trying to make you feel desperate for him.

I advise you to leave this time of your life behind you now. Before you lose your marriage, your money, and so much more.

You might ask “But what if it’s real? What if this is a chance at true love and happiness? Shouldn’t I take that chance? Life is short!”
I asked those questions too.
The ONLY good thing about my situation is that I will never wonder “what if?”. I will never feel he was ‘the one who got away’. I know for absolute sure that he was a lying, scamming, manipulating rat.
 

Moonshine

Major Ratslayer
Hi, its taken me a lot of courage to post this, as I'm not sure I want the answers!! Anyway, my story.

May 2020 in the midst of lockdown, one Saturday afternoon I got an FB message from a guy in Algeria. I was bored, I was doing the housework, my husband and I weren't getting on, so I thought sod it, I'll answer this absolutely devastatingly handsome young chap! (and this is something that I never ever would normally have done). Anyway, his name is Nourredine, he's from Algeria, (already the red flags were waving at me) He said he was 27, I told him I was 45 (I was 50, but do look younger) we chatted for a couple of hours and then I had to meet my friends online for drinks (remember those days :) ). He carried on texting me all evening, as I slowly drank lots of gin. We video called in the early hours and gosh I'd never seen such beautiful big brown eyes, I was completely besotted with him. So this went on the next day, it was so exciting, I found myself waiting for his reply, and he seemed to feel the same. And so started this wonderful love affair.
By day 4 he was saying how we should meet, me being ignorant about visas said oh you will have to come here, as I can't go to Algeria without my husband knowing, he said its not that easy, I need a Visa, I was like Oh? even for a holiday? He said yes, it was hard to get one unless there was someone who could help him, someone like me. Alarm bells set off in my head and I didn't speak to him for a couple of hours. I said to him oh thats what you want is it, a visa? He was like no no no, its not like that at all. What do I want a visa for? I only want to meet you, I don't want a visa. You come here then, f**k visas. So I decided I needed to be cautious, and whenever I mentioned it again he got very upset. So I didn't.
Next flag - I was checking his About info on FB. He was following hundreds of very well endowed english girls on FB, but none of them were on his friends list. And a Lot of them hadn't posted anything other than profile pics for about 3 years. When I asked him about it he said oh I did that when I was a kid, I don't know any of them, honestly I don't. So he unfollowed them all.
Third flag - I was practically stalking his FB, trying to find out more about him, looking at photos etc., when on his FB wall in 2018 (so 2 years earlier) was a happy birthday message from some woman called Leanne. She looked years older than me. He had replied to her message with a thank you. I asked him who she was. He denied knowing her, couldn't remember having a message from her. Said he didn't know her, he had no clue, he must have friended her years ago, along with all the others. He unfriended her. (his friends list has always been hidden) but he offered me his password to check his FB profile. I declined, as I didn't want to look. Anyway, I gave him the benefit of the doubt (more because I was enjoying spending time with him, and it broke up the tedium of lockdown) and moved on. Never mentioned it again, but it did niggle away at me.

Anyway, about 3 weeks in he told me he loved me. and it was love bomb central. but I loved it. I relished it. I felt fabulous. Then we realised we were both lying about our age. He was actually 21 ! (so 30 years younger :eek: but we move ahem...) He had a very old mobile and had to keep leaving me to go and charge it up, so I offered to buy him a new one, he never asked me, never asked for money, I offered. It was a whole experience getting it to him without my husband's knowledge but I did it. He was so very grateful, he made a video of him opening his parcel when it arrived, his whole family stood and watched him open this mysterious parcel. In July 2020 his brother had seen his phone screen with love hearts etc., so he asked him about it. Nourredine told him about me and his brother said he would give him some money so he could come to meet me in england, if that was what he wanted. He was so happy he facetimed me with his brother - but this is the only time I ever "met" any of his family. I was a secret from his mother, and his other brothers and his sisters.
And this relationship continued all through 2020, all through 2021. He tried, really really hard, to get a job here, a training course, anything. (he's an electrician, and he's very clever, he could speak english when we met but now his english his just brilliant and he has a slight birmingham accent that he picked up from me ha ha). We spent hours together, on video call, texting, telephone calls, everything. We fell in love, utterly in love. September 2021 he realised he was never going to get a job that he could move here to do. I couldn't even help him get a visitor visa because my husband would probably have found out, I wasn't sure how i could keep it a secret, since you have to write a letter saying you're inviting him, he needed somewhere to stay and it was just too complicated. He kept asking me to come to him. He would look at me through the camera and say I love you, I want to be with you, come to me. just come to me. It broke my heart. I adored him. We finished each other's sentences, we knew each other inside and out.

Anyway, things changed this year. He started to become distant, didn't spend as much time on the phone with me, said he was tired all the time and sleeping. Then in March after a few weeks of this, he said his mother had told him he had to get married, he was the last brother who was single, his sister was getting married and as she was moving out his mother needed another wife in the house to help with cooking etc. His other brothers all lived in apartments built upstairs, and they had their own families. So he had to do this as he would still live downstairs with his new wife, he couldn't afford to build upstairs. He was meant to be getting engaged to his 18 yr old cousin. He said he said no, he wasn't doing it. He didn't want to marry her. He said none of his family would talk to him, he couldnt buy internet on his own and his brothers wouldn't give him their share because they weren't speaking to him so we had weeks of no communication. I tried desperately to get him to talk to me, but he wouldn't. Then he would come back and say he was so sorry for treating me like this. This went on and on and on. I was heart broken. But he would come back, it would be "normal" for a couple of days then he would disappear again. Finally in July he told them no. It wasn't ever happening. He was too young to get married. But he never really came back to me. i don't understand why if he wasn't getting engaged and he had said no, then why not still be with me? He has now blocked me on every social media app, all except whatsapp. We spoke a week last saturday and he said he had been trying to get me to hate him so I would leave him. He said he wanted to leave but he couldn't. I persuaded him to stay. He said he still loved me and he was so sorry for hurting me. I told him I would leave my husband but he had to give me time. Then last week he suddenly had no internet again, although my whatsapp messages all had two ticks on them, so they had been delivered. he text every day to say he didn't have the money but he could text me from his neighbours internet just to say hello and he would buy the internet on thursday. He did. He spoke to me on friday. We had a video call. everything was fine. I haven't heard from him since 1.15 last friday afternoon. He has looked at whatsapp once since then, on monday. He obviously has me in archive or he's just ignoring me, I'm not sure. He won't answer the phone or read my messages. He's just gone. But he hasn't blocked me.

Three other times last year we broke up, once by me, and twice by him. We spent hours on video call crying together saying goodbye and then we would change our minds and the next day be back together. This time he won't even say goodbye. So my question is does this sound familiar? Does this follow a pattern? Am I just being ridiculous? Thank you if you have read this far!!
I'm sorry but doing all this to you is many many red flags
There is no sense in continuing and Algerians are more stricter than other cultures off the age difference
 

Moonshine

Major Ratslayer
Wow… welcome and interesting read!
so where to start… so I understand clearly you do not know much about our culture and norms. So, number 1 most important thing: you are married, living with another man and this Algerian knows this…. So I’ll tell you in his mind you are not a good woman and he will never respect you. Please understand I understand things happen and feelings change, but you are lying to one man and talking to another. He doesn’t view you as good no matter what he will say…. This is big big no no no in our culture. Ok, so that is out the way…. You are so much older than him, this is not acceptable. I’m sure you are a secret because you older foreign lady that’s already married. Do not send him anymore money and if you leave your husband only do it because you want. This Algerian is already promised to Algerian woman, this is why he disappeared. Do you have any questions? Algerian are way way more traditional and conservative than Tunisian.
Thats true even age difference between Algerians themselves is not tolerated the woman can not be older than the man and defiantly not married or divorced
This culture is very strict and the Algerians are more strict more controlling than Arab men
I know that even if he married u he would still go back to marry his arranged woman that is usually his cousin
Even a lot off Arabic men do this too .
One off his cousins married a western women had children to her left her with his bank card full and divorced her and married his cousin that both families had arranged years ago
Family always win in end
But I'm so sorry
I really think u could try and see whats going wrong in your marriage try and make a final go with your husband before u do anything
This Algerian man has messed up with your feelings
Please think long term it will never work I'm sorry
Think off you now
We are all here to support u any way we can
Big hug xxx
 

Astarisborn

Major Ratslayer
Oh wow the good old neighbours Internet I thought only my rat used that lie
And u know with data providers in Tunisia u can turn off calls and messages to an individual person
But they will still get notifications off the call coming in
And u will see many will put u to ignore but will absolutely deny they have although u know
He's on line he's In the chat line up but your messages are not even being delivered and your calls won't go through
U honestly find more out about rats tricks in fb messages when ur in a relationship with them
But if they were honest u wouldn't gave to do this
They lie to cover up lie
And even if u have proof they will accuse u off stalking them wtf
The object here is money
Sooner or later this is what they hint at
And he knows you'r married if he was a respected Algerian man he would never ever go near a married woman ever
So all he says to u is lies lies and more lies !!!
He's using the old rat handbook to give u silent so u miss him worry about him
And use this emotional off u worrying for his Oscar winning act off asking for money sob story
We all had it
All what u say has happened to us its typical rat behaviour and rules
Just block him hes playing games and ur going to get seriously hurt!
you got that line too Moonshine about the neighbour's internet???
 

Moonshine

Major Ratslayer
you got that line too Moonshine about the neighbour's internet???
Yeah that's strange his neighbour is his cousin so I don't see that happening that he gets there password to connect to free WiFi everyday!!

Honestly we all know Arabic and Tunisians give nothing away for free they would keep password private
Its all an illusion to make us belive when we know its lie wtf hahaha
So really it's fat stupid lie hahaha
 

marian0706

Well-Known Member
Hi, its taken me a lot of courage to post this, as I'm not sure I want the answers!! Anyway, my story.

May 2020 in the midst of lockdown, one Saturday afternoon I got an FB message from a guy in Algeria. I was bored, I was doing the housework, my husband and I weren't getting on, so I thought sod it, I'll answer this absolutely devastatingly handsome young chap! (and this is something that I never ever would normally have done). Anyway, his name is Nourredine, he's from Algeria, (already the red flags were waving at me) He said he was 27, I told him I was 45 (I was 50, but do look younger) we chatted for a couple of hours and then I had to meet my friends online for drinks (remember those days :) ). He carried on texting me all evening, as I slowly drank lots of gin. We video called in the early hours and gosh I'd never seen such beautiful big brown eyes, I was completely besotted with him. So this went on the next day, it was so exciting, I found myself waiting for his reply, and he seemed to feel the same. And so started this wonderful love affair.
By day 4 he was saying how we should meet, me being ignorant about visas said oh you will have to come here, as I can't go to Algeria without my husband knowing, he said its not that easy, I need a Visa, I was like Oh? even for a holiday? He said yes, it was hard to get one unless there was someone who could help him, someone like me. Alarm bells set off in my head and I didn't speak to him for a couple of hours. I said to him oh thats what you want is it, a visa? He was like no no no, its not like that at all. What do I want a visa for? I only want to meet you, I don't want a visa. You come here then, f**k visas. So I decided I needed to be cautious, and whenever I mentioned it again he got very upset. So I didn't.
Next flag - I was checking his About info on FB. He was following hundreds of very well endowed english girls on FB, but none of them were on his friends list. And a Lot of them hadn't posted anything other than profile pics for about 3 years. When I asked him about it he said oh I did that when I was a kid, I don't know any of them, honestly I don't. So he unfollowed them all.
Third flag - I was practically stalking his FB, trying to find out more about him, looking at photos etc., when on his FB wall in 2018 (so 2 years earlier) was a happy birthday message from some woman called Leanne. She looked years older than me. He had replied to her message with a thank you. I asked him who she was. He denied knowing her, couldn't remember having a message from her. Said he didn't know her, he had no clue, he must have friended her years ago, along with all the others. He unfriended her. (his friends list has always been hidden) but he offered me his password to check his FB profile. I declined, as I didn't want to look. Anyway, I gave him the benefit of the doubt (more because I was enjoying spending time with him, and it broke up the tedium of lockdown) and moved on. Never mentioned it again, but it did niggle away at me.

Anyway, about 3 weeks in he told me he loved me. and it was love bomb central. but I loved it. I relished it. I felt fabulous. Then we realised we were both lying about our age. He was actually 21 ! (so 30 years younger :eek: but we move ahem...) He had a very old mobile and had to keep leaving me to go and charge it up, so I offered to buy him a new one, he never asked me, never asked for money, I offered. It was a whole experience getting it to him without my husband's knowledge but I did it. He was so very grateful, he made a video of him opening his parcel when it arrived, his whole family stood and watched him open this mysterious parcel. In July 2020 his brother had seen his phone screen with love hearts etc., so he asked him about it. Nourredine told him about me and his brother said he would give him some money so he could come to meet me in england, if that was what he wanted. He was so happy he facetimed me with his brother - but this is the only time I ever "met" any of his family. I was a secret from his mother, and his other brothers and his sisters.
And this relationship continued all through 2020, all through 2021. He tried, really really hard, to get a job here, a training course, anything. (he's an electrician, and he's very clever, he could speak english when we met but now his english his just brilliant and he has a slight birmingham accent that he picked up from me ha ha). We spent hours together, on video call, texting, telephone calls, everything. We fell in love, utterly in love. September 2021 he realised he was never going to get a job that he could move here to do. I couldn't even help him get a visitor visa because my husband would probably have found out, I wasn't sure how i could keep it a secret, since you have to write a letter saying you're inviting him, he needed somewhere to stay and it was just too complicated. He kept asking me to come to him. He would look at me through the camera and say I love you, I want to be with you, come to me. just come to me. It broke my heart. I adored him. We finished each other's sentences, we knew each other inside and out.

Anyway, things changed this year. He started to become distant, didn't spend as much time on the phone with me, said he was tired all the time and sleeping. Then in March after a few weeks of this, he said his mother had told him he had to get married, he was the last brother who was single, his sister was getting married and as she was moving out his mother needed another wife in the house to help with cooking etc. His other brothers all lived in apartments built upstairs, and they had their own families. So he had to do this as he would still live downstairs with his new wife, he couldn't afford to build upstairs. He was meant to be getting engaged to his 18 yr old cousin. He said he said no, he wasn't doing it. He didn't want to marry her. He said none of his family would talk to him, he couldnt buy internet on his own and his brothers wouldn't give him their share because they weren't speaking to him so we had weeks of no communication. I tried desperately to get him to talk to me, but he wouldn't. Then he would come back and say he was so sorry for treating me like this. This went on and on and on. I was heart broken. But he would come back, it would be "normal" for a couple of days then he would disappear again. Finally in July he told them no. It wasn't ever happening. He was too young to get married. But he never really came back to me. i don't understand why if he wasn't getting engaged and he had said no, then why not still be with me? He has now blocked me on every social media app, all except whatsapp. We spoke a week last saturday and he said he had been trying to get me to hate him so I would leave him. He said he wanted to leave but he couldn't. I persuaded him to stay. He said he still loved me and he was so sorry for hurting me. I told him I would leave my husband but he had to give me time. Then last week he suddenly had no internet again, although my whatsapp messages all had two ticks on them, so they had been delivered. he text every day to say he didn't have the money but he could text me from his neighbours internet just to say hello and he would buy the internet on thursday. He did. He spoke to me on friday. We had a video call. everything was fine. I haven't heard from him since 1.15 last friday afternoon. He has looked at whatsapp once since then, on monday. He obviously has me in archive or he's just ignoring me, I'm not sure. He won't answer the phone or read my messages. He's just gone. But he hasn't blocked me.

Three other times last year we broke up, once by me, and twice by him. We spent hours on video call crying together saying goodbye and then we would change our minds and the next day be back together. This time he won't even say goodbye. So my question is does this sound familiar? Does this follow a pattern? Am I just being ridiculous? Thank you if you have read this far!!
Block and delete they want money it is a bad pattern and best out of it
 
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