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Alien

Guest
Alien
Be under no illusion, the same thing is happening in Egypt, Turkey, Gambia, Kenya, Dominican Republic etc etc. Tunisia is highlighted here because it happens to be a forum about Tunisia. The men are not unique (although they like to think of themselves as clever - Libyans are rich, Algerians are brave, Tunisian's are clever - that's what they think ;)).


Really?!:eek: I didn't know that! :( It's sad! :(
 

BrownGirl

Moderator And Queen of Summaries
Really?!:eek: I didn't know that! :( It's sad! :(


Gosh yes :D
There was a tv documentary on here years ago about a crowd of Irish women going back to Turkey to see their "boys" - they were armed with gifts and even brought a newbie to see if she could get a boy. A rough looking bunch of middle aged women they were :eek:
One woman was even happy to let her daughter go off for the night with one of the locals - vile to watch :sick:
 

Fern

Major Ratslayer
Alien
Be under no illusion, the same thing is happening in Egypt, Turkey, Gambia, Kenya, Dominican Republic etc etc. Tunisia is highlighted here because it happens to be a forum about Tunisia. The men are not unique (although they like to think of themselves as clever - Libyans are rich, Algerians are brave, Tunisian's are clever - that's what they think ;)).
I've only experienced the Turkish men who were so blatantly over the top we found them a pain in the arse whereas the Tunisian were more subtle, if that's the right word, more devious and in my experience more dangerous. But sounds like its quite common from what you say. I was just shocked by the Tunisians (hotel staff) at just how convincing they were and the depth of their lies and fakeness
 

Amber

oo la la ;)
They won't do anything - these "men" are bringing business to the hotel by duping all these women who keep returning to see their loves. They know exactly what's happening but just choose to turn a blind eye to it all x
I have to say i met only once in Tunisia a hotel manager in Djerba that was very protective of european women and very vigilant with the animation team always checking on their behaviours and asking a smart way if women felt comfortable enough but it 's the only one i met and he had been trained and had worked in Europe a lot and was half European himself...
As for Tej Marhaba this is such a knocking house full of alcoholics of all nationalities and age , the managers are kind of rats themselves allowing prostitution and rattery ,being provided themselves with girls too ...i always this is Babel and Sodome and Gommore all inclusive......
 
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Alien

Guest
I don't understand everything well in your sentences...sorry!...:( But it's amazing!
What about the middle aged women? They looked the others who went to their "boys" and brought gifts to them?

It's good that there was a documentary about these things on the TV in your country. In my country we have never heard about these things. I found only 1 article in Marie Claire Magazine which summarized a concrete but short story of a woman's marriage and divorce with a Tunisian man. But only after my friend's case, so I couldn't warn her. :(

But I think if it showed on the TV once or twice in a 10-15 minutes documentary, most of women would ignore it. They would think "ok, but these are special cases..." or they would think at first that the victimes are stupid. More documentaries, more warnings, detailed stories, facebook campaigns...and so on... would be needed all around the world for women to understand their well organized manner, that they can scam the intelligent women too, and to stamp to the women's brain that that is the special case if they don't do the bezness!

I read somewhere between the threads that somebody wrote that famous channels like BBC ought to broadcast about this problem. It's a very good idea, we just ought to find someone who works at BBC.;) And it would be good to make all Schengen countries' main channels to collaboration, to broadcast about this problem too.

Unfortunately I have no contact with the govenmental institutions, especially not for the whole EU. But I am very determined because it's very hard to see when my best friend has been being absolutely underneath the ground for long time because of the behavior of a disgusting rat. :Cry: I think if it happend to her it could happen to anybody else. I'm not a revoutioner but I want to prevent the future victimes.......
 

Amber

oo la la ;)
I've only experienced the Turkish men who were so blatantly over the top we found them a pain in the arse whereas the Tunisian were more subtle, if that's the right word, more devious and in my experience more dangerous. But sounds like its quite common from what you say. I was just shocked by the Tunisians (hotel staff) at just how convincing they were and the depth of their lies and fakeness
Same experience for me , well travelled in other Arabic and African countries, even lived in some,never came accross that level of professionals...
 

BrownGirl

Moderator And Queen of Summaries
I don't understand everything well in your sentences...sorry!...:( But it's amazing!
What about the middle aged women? They looked the others who went to their "boys" and brought gifts to them?


Oops, I think I have had too many glasses of port and my sentences are not as they should be.
The documentary showed nothing different that what we have all seen in Tunisia. Middle aged women with young men. The men doing what they do in exchange for jeans, trainers, shirts etc.
I knew all about this. I was even an active member here before I met my rat, as I had an "encounter" with a baby rat on a girlie holiday. He played me to a certain degree but there was no "I love you" or anything like that. It was at the time of the revolution so there was no chance of me going back. Last time I spoke to him he was outside of Tunisia (work, not woman, I know for a fact as I met up with him in his work :D). I hope that stopped him becoming a fully fledged rat, as he had a lot of good qualities.
Anyway, stupid me knew all about rats, yet still managed to fall for one. It took me nearly 2 years to open my eyes. When I see women coming on here and posting their stories, I can see of bit of me in them. There is a type that the rats go for. Usually an emphatic person, someone who can't understand that people can be liars and conmen. I can't emphasise enough how much they groom, find the vulnerability and exploit it. You don't really understand it until it has happened to you, even then it is still pretty incomprehensible :rolleyes:
There was a TV programme on here recently about Psychopaths. The theory is that there are many people in the world with psychopathic personalities and that we need these people, it is part of nature - they tend to be our lawyers, our top business men, our risk takers. Anyway, there was a test you could do online - I did it and came out at 18% psychopath i.e. not a psychopath, phew :D.
The results of the test warned me to be careful, that I could be susceptible to con men LOL, yeah go figure! :rolleyes:
 

crystal

The Punchy Scot
Same experience for me , well travelled in other Arabic and African countries, even lived in some,never came accross that level of professionals...

I do agree with Salek on a lot of her post....Tunisia in the 80's was one of the top selling destinations... The staff and waiters then were second to none..they took pride in there work, hotels would put out the red carpet for there guests.. the hotels were newer and rooms and furnishings of a high standard.. Because it was booming the staff wanted to work there because they were treated well and they had decent wages.. one person for one job and it was done well... Food was of a high standard and an excursion was well catered for and most of all value for money.. this is the die-hard tourists that Salek is talking bout..the ones with great memories of bygone holidays, clean beaches,roads.safety, you were not ripped of and it was value for money... Unfortunately as much as Ben Ali did introduce and promote Tourism...he took a huge slice of the profits...therefore unless the hotels were British contracted or outside branded the money was not there to improve..

The revolution had the chance to improve Tunisia..but it failed..as Tunisia is not governed... Tunisia is now Amber major meaning only essential travel permitted to the South and no Safari excursions...This is very sad....Unfortunately..it is everyone for themselves... as it has gotten so bad..that even if there is decent people trying to make it better there are 5 bringing it down.... I remember a beautiful Tunisia full of Jasmine and Mystic... If does sadden me that it has gotten to this....

Unfortunately the older generation that has always went to Tunisia for the winter year after year..has dwindled... They just do not feel safe and the hotel cut backs are so fierce that the heating does not get switched on... I do hope that it does not get worse...and something is done to stop this downward spiral...
 

winnie

Ratslayer
I do agree with Salek on a lot of her post....Tunisia in the 80's was one of the top selling destinations... The staff and waiters then were second to none..they took pride in there work, hotels would put out the red carpet for there guests.. the hotels were newer and rooms and furnishings of a high standard.. Because it was booming the staff wanted to work there because they were treated well and they had decent wages.. one person for one job and it was done well... Food was of a high standard and an excursion was well catered for and most of all value for money.. this is the die-hard tourists that Salek is talking bout..the ones with great memories of bygone holidays, clean beaches,roads.safety, you were not ripped of and it was value for money... Unfortunately as much as Ben Ali did introduce and promote Tourism...he took a huge slice of the profits...therefore unless the hotels were British contracted or outside branded the money was not there to improve..

The revolution had the chance to improve Tunisia..but it failed..as Tunisia is not governed... Tunisia is now Amber major meaning only essential travel permitted to the South and no Safari excursions...This is very sad....Unfortunately..it is everyone for themselves... as it has gotten so bad..that even if there is decent people trying to make it better there are 5 bringing it down.... I remember a beautiful Tunisia full of Jasmine and Mystic... If does sadden me that it has gotten to this....

Unfortunately the older generation that has always went to Tunisia for the winter year after year..has dwindled... They just do not feel safe and the hotel cut backs are so fierce that the heating does not get switched on... I do hope that it does not get worse...and something is done to stop this downward spiral...

I used to like the smell of jasmine. Yesterday i bought a car air freshener... when i opened it i nearly puked. It was Jasmine! :sick:
 
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Alien

Guest
Oops, I think I have had too many glasses of port and my sentences are not as they should be.
The documentary showed nothing different that what we have all seen in Tunisia. Middle aged women with young men. The men doing what they do in exchange for jeans, trainers, shirts etc.
I knew all about this. I was even an active member here before I met my rat, as I had an "encounter" with a baby rat on a girlie holiday. He played me to a certain degree but there was no "I love you" or anything like that. It was at the time of the revolution so there was no chance of me going back. Last time I spoke to him he was outside of Tunisia (work, not woman, I know for a fact as I met up with him in his work :D). I hope that stopped him becoming a fully fledged rat, as he had a lot of good qualities.
Anyway, stupid me knew all about rats, yet still managed to fall for one. It took me nearly 2 years to open my eyes. When I see women coming on here and posting their stories, I can see of bit of me in them. There is a type that the rats go for. Usually an emphatic person, someone who can't understand that people can be liars and conmen. I can't emphasise enough how much they groom, find the vulnerability and exploit it. You don't really understand it until it has happened to you, even then it is still pretty incomprehensible :rolleyes:
There was a TV programme on here recently about Psychopaths. The theory is that there are many people in the world with psychopathic personalities and that we need these people, it is part of nature - they tend to be our lawyers, our top business men, our risk takers. Anyway, there was a test you could do online - I did it and came out at 18% psychopath i.e. not a psychopath, phew :D.
The results of the test warned me to be careful, that I could be susceptible to con men LOL, yeah go figure! :rolleyes:


Thank you for clearing up! :):):):) (Sorry for my grammar knowledge....:()

Hahh-haa-hhaaa :) I laughed well on this psychopath test! :D I would be curious to my percentage too! ;)
But my opinion is that, although it could sound strange, but there is something true in their theory! As I experienced, sometimes it's really true that some of our top bussiness men, or layers, scientists or other profession's specialists for example some medical professor (doctor) are psychopats a little bit. It strange, because they are genius in their profession and in taking risks, but...such is life! :) ;)
 

crystal

The Punchy Scot
Thank you for clearing up! :):):):) (Sorry for my grammar knowledge....:()

Hahh-haa-hhaaa :) I laughed well on this psychopath test! :D I would be curious to my percentage too! ;)
But my opinion is that, although it could sound strange, but there is something true in their theory! As I experienced, sometimes it's really true that some of our top bussiness men, or layers, scientists or other profession's specialists for example some medical professor (doctor) are psychopats a little bit. It strange, because they are genius in their profession and in taking risks, but...such is life! :) ;)

Yes it is true there is a very fine line that Doctors Nurses police men are able to cross before being judged as psychopaths.. they have to be to do the job they do
 
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Alien

Guest
I do agree with Salek on a lot of her post....Tunisia in the 80's was one of the top selling destinations... The staff and waiters then were second to none..they took pride in there work, hotels would put out the red carpet for there guests.. the hotels were newer and rooms and furnishings of a high standard.. Because it was booming the staff wanted to work there because they were treated well and they had decent wages.. one person for one job and it was done well... Food was of a high standard and an excursion was well catered for and most of all value for money.. this is the die-hard tourists that Salek is talking bout..the ones with great memories of bygone holidays, clean beaches,roads.safety, you were not ripped of and it was value for money... Unfortunately as much as Ben Ali did introduce and promote Tourism...he took a huge slice of the profits...therefore unless the hotels were British contracted or outside branded the money was not there to improve..

The revolution had the chance to improve Tunisia..but it failed..as Tunisia is not governed... Tunisia is now Amber major meaning only essential travel permitted to the South and no Safari excursions...This is very sad....Unfortunately..it is everyone for themselves... as it has gotten so bad..that even if there is decent people trying to make it better there are 5 bringing it down.... I remember a beautiful Tunisia full of Jasmine and Mystic... If does sadden me that it has gotten to this....

Unfortunately the older generation that has always went to Tunisia for the winter year after year..has dwindled... They just do not feel safe and the hotel cut backs are so fierce that the heating does not get switched on... I do hope that it does not get worse...and something is done to stop this downward spiral...


Yes you are right, Crystal, and I really feel sorry about their circumstances, but it's not a cause for these rat men to became a scammer, a prostitute, and sell their faith and their Dick. :(
 

crystal

The Punchy Scot
Yes you are right, Crystal, and I really feel sorry about their circumstances, but it's not a cause for these rat men to became a scammer, a prostitute, and sell their faith and their Dick. :(

I was empathizing with the decent staff..that took pride in there work... that made good money through good tips because they did good service and worked hard... These rats have no place next to these men ... a completely different generation...
 
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Alien

Guest
I was empathizing with the decent staff..that took pride in there work... that made good money through good tips because they did good service and worked hard... These rats have no place next to these men ... a completely different generation...


Ah, ok I see!
 
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USAGirl777

Guest
http://www.tunisia-live.net/2013/12/30/we-need-a-revolution-in-tunisian-tourism/

"As Tunisia approaches the third anniversary of the Revolution, the country must urgently boost its economy, which has continued to decline since January 2011. The need to rekindle Tunisia’s tourism is of utmost importance, given tourism’s role in the nation’s gross national product, employment, and its image abroad. Tourism is the number one barometer around the world for gauging stability and a key factor in attracting business"




Here is a good excerpt from an article !
 

Fern

Major Ratslayer
http://www.tunisia-live.net/2013/12/30/we-need-a-revolution-in-tunisian-tourism/

"As Tunisia approaches the third anniversary of the Revolution, the country must urgently boost its economy, which has continued to decline since January 2011. The need to rekindle Tunisia’s tourism is of utmost importance, given tourism’s role in the nation’s gross national product, employment, and its image abroad. Tourism is the number one barometer around the world for gauging stability and a key factor in attracting business"




Here is a good excerpt from an article I read:
They better do a U-turn then! lol
 
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USAGirl777

Guest
The predatory behviour of these men on women should be turned into movie I swear. The one they made called "Bezness" will rival nothing of the modern version I would write the script for. They think that they hurt these women but in the end they have not only destroyed the reputation if the tourist industry but they wind hanging themselves in the process. Mix this with the other problems they face and it will not be a pretty picture.
 
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Alien

Guest
http://www.tunisia-live.net/2013/12/30/we-need-a-revolution-in-tunisian-tourism/

"As Tunisia approaches the third anniversary of the Revolution, the country must urgently boost its economy, which has continued to decline since January 2011. The need to rekindle Tunisia’s tourism is of utmost importance, given tourism’s role in the nation’s gross national product, employment, and its image abroad. Tourism is the number one barometer around the world for gauging stability and a key factor in attracting business"




Here is a good excerpt from an article !


Wow, it's a good article, thanks for sharing it USA girl! :) It will take time for them to change, especially as far as the trash's flilng apart is concern......:(
 

Amber

oo la la ;)
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Please mods cut the girl off as i can't manage to do it ... but this is a necessary update of the rat's wedding on the 28th of may ...

Ladies visiting the Tej Marhaba and internet , don't feed the bezness process ...the rat is not yet in England
 
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Alien

Guest
Please mods cut the girl off as i can't manage to do it ... but this is a necessary update of the rat's wedding on the 28th of june ...

Ladies visiting the Tej Marhaba and internet , don't feed the bezness process ...the rat is not yet in England



Ooooooh, GOD!! It's amazing!!!!! :eek::eek: Poor girl!!! :( She is beautiful, but I'm not sure is she European, or Tunisian? (She seem to be European, but she is enough brown, so I can't decide it) Look at his wedding ring!!! It's black! :mad: He was not bothered to buy a gold one! :mad: How has he cheek to marry a women!!! :eek: :mad: My mind will be stopped! :eek:
 
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sadchick

Guest
Shes European. English girl. Wedding was 28 may.... poor poor girl paid all for this wedding.....
 
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sadchick

Guest
But she knew all... many times warmed... always ignored... she doesnt give fuck thinking we are all jelous bitches..... its her choice. She accepted all he was cheating on her sending naked photos to diferent women but she still blind.... so what we can do..... nth
 
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Alien

Guest
Shes European. English girl. Wedding was 28 may.... poor poor girl paid all for this wedding.....


Oooooh, poor girl!!!!! :eek::Cry::Cry: It's amazing!!!! My blood boils!!!!:mad::mad: How is that possible that nobody can stop these rats???!!!!!!!!! :mad::mad: It's amazing!!!!:mad:
 
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sadchick

Guest
Good question.... cause always will be some other naive victim and target.... its like mission impossible.... till women let them doing their dirty job we are useless. Unfortunatelly....
 
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Alien

Guest
But she knew all... many times warmed... always ignored... she doesnt give fuck thinking we are all jelous bitches..... its her choice. She accepted all he was cheating on her sending naked photos to diferent women but she still blind.... so what we can do..... nth


Pffffffff............. How can these men make girls fool to be so blind like her! :eek: :mad: It's amazing!!!
 
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