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Ellie1

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I have spoke to 1 boy who works in 1 of the hotels where I have stayed, I asked him why he goes with older women 50s-60s, when hes in his 20s and not go for younger girls. He admitted to me, the women want sex and they want money for cigarettes and beer, this is why he does it. At least he was man enough to admit it, I asked him if he knew it was wrong and he did say yes but because he don't get enough money to live when he pay his rent and other bills he left with nothing and he don't want to ask his parents because they getting old now.
 
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me and mine don't drink, he was surprised when I told him I don't drink, he thought all English like a drink and to get drunk when on holiday.
 

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I have spoke to 1 boy who works in 1 of the hotels where I have stayed, I asked him why he goes with older women 50s-60s, when hes in his 20s and not go for younger girls. He admitted to me, the women want sex and they want money for cigarettes and beer, this is why he does it. At least he was man enough to admit it, I asked him if he knew it was wrong and he did say yes but because he don't get enough money to live when he pay his rent and other bills he left with nothing and he don't want to ask his parents because they getting old now.
Don't feel sorry for these men... like they are being abused..far from it... that is there cash cow...they will also have there 5 other gf there Tunisian gf or wife they use women to fulfill all there needs sexual or whatever they have a depraved life and love every minute of it.. they use women to achieve there goal of being rich and the richer you are in tunisia the more status the more women they can get and the less work they have to do.. they are not poor they are being kept..thats why they marry europeans in there thirties cause they are losing there looks and been round the courses and can't get away with what they used to..
 

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I know a couple with this age gap and also a woman with a man with about a 50 year age gap YES that wasn't a typing mistake it was a 50 year age gap!

Oooohhh, noooo, it's disgusting! :eek: What does that woman hope from their relationship?
 
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No..No...No way im feeling sorry for them, ive known this boy for quite a few year now, I know exactly what he gets upto. Ive seen him go through so many women I was shocked at first till I started watching others when im sitting having coffee with my friends or boyfriend. I think this is why I wont let myself get close to any1 else. The boy I know which I will say B for him, he still has some of these women go back for him and send money through WN and take gifts for him, some are expensive aftershaves, ive seen many phones pass his hands and he sells them. He also sells some of the clothes that these women take for him. Ive seen some of the clothes he got off 1 woman, gone to the souk on a sunday morning sorry cant spell the name baraxia where you get louages and ive seen the clothes for sale there. The vodka he gets off these women he will drink 1 bottle and sell the other bottle to a restaurant.
 

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They called Papillon, Farasha when I was there. She had just released a CD. She hung out at the Rose and Crown, and O'Connors. She was going out with one of the very young Animators/rats at Tej Marhaba, parading him round like a horse, he is now married to a young Dutch woman.
It sounds familiar to me ...well if you're referring to the little scum hanging around with his great grandma,he was a specialist to take advantage of the elderly , he even keeps an unhealthy link with a nice english lady who sounds like she's looking at him as if he was a grandson . This ugly rat got his due, the young dutch who married him out of fb hitching , got engaged after three days in real life ,managed to import him very quickly in Holland , and kicked his arse out almost as quickly, after a few months in Holland. He's now wandering in Holland searching for a new prey to marry i guess ...
 
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Is this the woman who has links with hammamet hotel and les oranges he is the security guard, he took quite a substantial amount of money from her, I think she has lost her shop through this.
 
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No Abbs the lady with the shop several years ago lived in Sousse, her husband died but they had been married 15-20 years. The lady in Hammamet was very savvy moneywise and very wealthy. She would be about mid 60`s now.
 

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They called Papillon, Farasha when I was there. She had just released a CD. She hung out at the Rose and Crown, and O'Connors. She was going out with one of the very young Animators/rats at Tej Marhaba, parading him round like a horse, he is now married to a young Dutch woman.
I remember you telling me about her M - you were totally amazed by the apparition at the time! x
 

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Some ladies do indeed wisely protect their wealth from the rats they want in their lives..., quite happy for them! But this is a random phenomenon that can be observed anywhere in the world, so called cougars paying a good time with young men...each one her choice, not for me thanks!
Has nothing to see with the average foreign rat victims in Tunisia. Has all to see with morality. A rotten behaviour in a rotten world of huge wealth and being bored to the core.

I saw so many rather "poor" ladies saving every cent or penny to be able to send money to their rats, to buy a ticket twice a year, to come with presents like Santa, living back home (most do have children!) in relative poverty, doing overtime at work to manage all the costs, .... WHY, WHY do they do this? The motivation is a dream they cling on, to escape from daily life without joy...so that's what makes rats succesful: offering dreams and fake happines to their victims.

The sex tourists are a happy few...the real victims are the average women that deserve our support! We're maybe all Don Quichotte's here, but at least we do something about it!
 

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It sounds familiar to me ...well if you're referring to the little scum hanging around with his great grandma,he was a specialist to take advantage of the elderly , he even keeps an unhealthy link with a nice english lady who sounds like she's looking at him as if he was a grandson . This ugly rat got his due, the young dutch who married him out of fb hitching , got engaged after three days in real life ,managed to import him very quickly in Holland , and kicked his arse out almost as quickly, after a few months in Holland. He's now wandering in Holland searching for a new prey to marry i guess ...
Yes, we are talking about the same rat. Good to hear his wife has thrown him out.
 

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I remember you telling me about her M - you were totally amazed by the apparition at the time! x
Amazed is an understatement. The young Tunisian woman friend who told me the story had to sit me down, I could not stop laughing . What was surprising was how Farasha behaved as if everything was normal. It was clear this rat was young enough to be her grandson. She looked hideous with her full on Black eye liner, Micro mini, and six inch heels. The rat was not embarassed at all, common knowledge that she bankrolled him.
 

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Some ladies do indeed wisely protect their wealth from the rats they want in their lives..., quite happy for them! But this is a random phenomenon that can be observed anywhere in the world, so called cougars paying a good time with young men...each one her choice, not for me thanks!
Has nothing to see with the average foreign rat victims in Tunisia. Has all to see with morality. A rotten behaviour in a rotten world of huge wealth and being bored to the core.

I saw so many rather "poor" ladies saving every cent or penny to be able to send money to their rats, to buy a ticket twice a year, to come with presents like Santa, living back home (most do have children!) in relative poverty, doing overtime at work to manage all the costs, .... WHY, WHY do they do this? The motivation is a dream they cling on, to escape from daily life without joy...so that's what makes rats succesful: offering dreams and fake happines to their victims.

The sex tourists are a happy few...the real victims are the average women that deserve our support! We're maybe all Don Quichotte's here, but at least we do something about it!
It is sad when women are taking out loans, overdrafts, and maxing out credit cards for their regular trips to Tunisia, to see the rats, or to send money to the rats. The rats don't care that these women are putting themselves in debt, and encourage it. I know with some the younger women, their parents fund all their trips to Tunisia, and in effect are funding the rats too.
 
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I have heard some women tell the boys they have property, business,so much money in the bank and good paid jobs, this is asking for trouble. And they wounder why this happens.
 
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Now you know she bought me lunch M, a toasted Hawaiian Sarnie when Ursula still ran the café/bar... M was busy .....what a tale she told me , my mind reeled lol....but she did treat those kids well not just her young fellas...
 

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I have heard some women tell the boys they have property, business,so much money in the bank and good paid jobs, this is asking for trouble. And they wounder why this happens.

I can imagine that 60 -70 years old or young but ugly women tell their rat that they are very reach on that purpose to bait the rats with this for themselves and gain him for sex. And "poor" stupid rats f.ck them, and they hope they will became also rich by these women. Lol, what a suck...;)
 

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If you were at Enfida airport last week when the flight from Manchester came in, you would likely have seen 'Mavis' arrive. (If your reading this 'Mavis' and recognise yourself, I do hope that you don't mind me calling you that.) She was perhaps late 60's, dressed in black leggings with silver decorations up the sides, a floaty orange and red top, animal print high heeled ankle boots and carrying a black tote bag with a large red edged black rose on the side – her grey hair was piled on top of her head and she had several diamanté hair clips on the back and sides – discreet make up, but lots of gold jewellery. She was beaming with happiness as she scanned the waiting crowd for her beloved and was so happy when she spotted him bearing the obligatory red rose and welcoming smile. The small crowd of cynical reps looked on as he gave her a hurried furtive hug. He then picked up the suitcase, his mate grabbed the hand luggage and off they shot at 5 miles per hour, leaving poor 'Mavis' to stagger after them at 2 miles per hour, as she desperately tried to keep up with them on her too high heels – arms flapping at the sides as she tried to keep her balance.
'Mavis' I know that you saw them staring at you and I'll apologise for that, but they have seen it all before. It really doesn't matter what they think, but they were so hoping that just for once, as it is the festive season, you would be the exception to the rule. I do hope that you have a happy Christmas 'Mavis'
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True story – one of many from my friend who is one of the supervisors at Enfida. Jesus wept.
Mavis needs to read this

Dr. Sherry,

I'm a 29-year-old Black women and single mom of three girls. I just recently gave birth to my third child in July, and since then life has taken its toll. Throughout this process I met a man who's a few years younger than me. We started out as friends, but now he is mine to keep. I often get nervous and scared because of experiences with my past relationships. One of them lasted for 6 years and it didn’t end well. I try not to think about that just for piece of mind but no matter what I do, it just isn't enough. Now my new beau and I have been official for three months and it has been like heaven for me. In this short time, I've grown to love this man and I’ve offered my all to keep him. He's also done the same for me. I'm currently going through a financial bump and I’m super embarrassing that he has to witness this. I fear he may be thinking this is too much for him to handle, but I try and keep that negativity to myself to avoid stressing him out. I have three kids and he has none. I'll be 30 soon and he’s just starting to enjoy his 20s. I love him a lot and he tells and shows me he loves me as well, but I'm just concerned that my situation will make him reconsider our relationship altogether. What would be your advice in this case? Thank you.
Dear Sis,

Please slow down and think about this. You are approaching this relationship way too fast, too soon. It sounds as if this relationship is a run away train with no brakes. Find the brakes and slow down some, okay? Listen to yourself. After only three months, this man is your "beau,” he is "yours to keep,” you "love” this man and offer “your all to keep him" and your relationship is like "heaven.” Really!? If this is heaven for you after only three months, I hear that you must have really been living in hell. Be careful sis, your quick arrival in “heaven" may have a trap door. This trap door could drop you further back and deeper into whatever you are trying to escape from in your past. You are putting all your hopes and dreams into a man you have known for a very short period of time. Don't forget that you have three children, with one being an infant about the age of your relationship.

Your boyfriend has no children and is in his early 20s. Given that he is not the father of any of your children, what makes you believe that he is willing to or capable of playing a fatherly role in their lives? If you are willing to give your all to keep him, what does that mean in terms of you taking care of your children and being a single independent parent? What are your expectations of your new relationship? You say that you are going through an embarrassing "financial bump" and you fear he may reconsider the relationship based on that. He may, but I think he may reconsider the relationship based on you sounding desperate to be with him so soon. I think you should back up and think things through a little more without all the emotions. You are still in the honeymoon phase of this relationship and it’s too soon to know what the future will hold. Once you are over the honeymoon phase, ask yourself the tough questions regarding your needs in a relationship as a single parent.

Always look at the reality of the relationship as opposed to what you would like it to be. Your boyfriend may be everything you ever hoped but make sure you have everything together for you and your family so you can make it with or without this man. Okay? Best of luck. -- Dr. Sherry
Email us your questions for Dr. Sherry now and be sure to include "Ask Dr. Sherry" in the subject line.
 

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Mavis needs to read this

Dr. Sherry,

I'm a 29-year-old Black women and single mom of three girls. I just recently gave birth to my third child in July, and since then life has taken its toll. Throughout this process I met a man who's a few years younger than me. We started out as friends, but now he is mine to keep. I often get nervous and scared because of experiences with my past relationships. One of them lasted for 6 years and it didn’t end well. I try not to think about that just for piece of mind but no matter what I do, it just isn't enough. Now my new beau and I have been official for three months and it has been like heaven for me. In this short time, I've grown to love this man and I’ve offered my all to keep him. He's also done the same for me. I'm currently going through a financial bump and I’m super embarrassing that he has to witness this. I fear he may be thinking this is too much for him to handle, but I try and keep that negativity to myself to avoid stressing him out. I have three kids and he has none. I'll be 30 soon and he’s just starting to enjoy his 20s. I love him a lot and he tells and shows me he loves me as well, but I'm just concerned that my situation will make him reconsider our relationship altogether. What would be your advice in this case? Thank you.
Dear Sis,

Please slow down and think about this. You are approaching this relationship way too fast, too soon. It sounds as if this relationship is a run away train with no brakes. Find the brakes and slow down some, okay? Listen to yourself. After only three months, this man is your "beau,” he is "yours to keep,” you "love” this man and offer “your all to keep him" and your relationship is like "heaven.” Really!? If this is heaven for you after only three months, I hear that you must have really been living in hell. Be careful sis, your quick arrival in “heaven" may have a trap door. This trap door could drop you further back and deeper into whatever you are trying to escape from in your past. You are putting all your hopes and dreams into a man you have known for a very short period of time. Don't forget that you have three children, with one being an infant about the age of your relationship.

Your boyfriend has no children and is in his early 20s. Given that he is not the father of any of your children, what makes you believe that he is willing to or capable of playing a fatherly role in their lives? If you are willing to give your all to keep him, what does that mean in terms of you taking care of your children and being a single independent parent? What are your expectations of your new relationship? You say that you are going through an embarrassing "financial bump" and you fear he may reconsider the relationship based on that. He may, but I think he may reconsider the relationship based on you sounding desperate to be with him so soon. I think you should back up and think things through a little more without all the emotions. You are still in the honeymoon phase of this relationship and it’s too soon to know what the future will hold. Once you are over the honeymoon phase, ask yourself the tough questions regarding your needs in a relationship as a single parent.

Always look at the reality of the relationship as opposed to what you would like it to be. Your boyfriend may be everything you ever hoped but make sure you have everything together for you and your family so you can make it with or without this man. Okay? Best of luck. -- Dr. Sherry
Email us your questions for Dr. Sherry now and be sure to include "Ask Dr. Sherry" in the subject line.
I don't usually side with the men on this forum, but this poor lad wants to get out quickly in my opinion! :eek: :D
 

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Just read this thread with interest. On my first ever visit to Tunisia I was so shocked at the age gaps between the young Tunisian men and older European women. I was also shocked at the antics of some of these older women, acting like teenagers and chasing after the men! It really did shock me..
On this first visit we met a pair of ladies in our hotel who were mid 50's, one of them had been travelling to Tunisia for 17 years and said she had a Tunisian husband. She said however that she always stayed in a hotel when to came to visit the so called husband and and she made up some excuse as to why she didn't stay with him. Alarm bells rang with me straight away, and I didn't want to say Anything to her, but I later said to my friend, that she was obviously being used for money and he was probably married. I felt sorry for the lady, and couldn't believe she had been strung along for so long.. Maybe she is will being strung along, maybe she has seen sense. Who knows.
 

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Again, it's no different to the creepy old men who have sex with beautiful young women.
Maybe off topic but the women here were not and will not be a sex tourist -
If that was even in my thoughts I would defiantly not chose T as a destination, rather Egypt or who knows.
A Thai women normally care a bit for their " agreement " a T man would never ( if a rat) care a bit and it's not seen as an agreement from most women they think it's love.
 

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If you were at Enfida airport last week when the flight from Manchester came in, you would likely have seen 'Mavis' arrive. (If your reading this 'Mavis' and recognise yourself, I do hope that you don't mind me calling you that.) She was perhaps late 60's, dressed in black leggings with silver decorations up the sides, a floaty orange and red top, animal print high heeled ankle boots and carrying a black tote bag with a large red edged black rose on the side – her grey hair was piled on top of her head and she had several diamanté hair clips on the back and sides – discreet make up, but lots of gold jewellery. She was beaming with happiness as she scanned the waiting crowd for her beloved and was so happy when she spotted him bearing the obligatory red rose and welcoming smile. The small crowd of cynical reps looked on as he gave her a hurried furtive hug. He then picked up the suitcase, his mate grabbed the hand luggage and off they shot at 5 miles per hour, leaving poor 'Mavis' to stagger after them at 2 miles per hour, as she desperately tried to keep up with them on her too high heels – arms flapping at the sides as she tried to keep her balance.
'Mavis' I know that you saw them staring at you and I'll apologise for that, but they have seen it all before. It really doesn't matter what they think, but they were so hoping that just for once, as it is the festive season, you would be the exception to the rule. I do hope that you have a happy Christmas 'Mavis'
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True story – one of many from my friend who is one of the supervisors at Enfida. Jesus wept.
Poor ole Mavis ,,there all there at Gatwick /Heathrow departure lounge ,Bags of duty free ,day dreaming of their fortnight in paradise with hobbi .Checking their phones every 2 seconds ,just incase he drop called her .Wishing the vodka allowance was more than 2 bottles .The book" 50 shades of grey "in her hand ,
 

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Poor ole Mavis ,,there all there at Gatwick /Heathrow departure lounge ,Bags of duty free ,day dreaming of their fortnight in paradise with hobbi .Checking their phones every 2 seconds ,just incase he drop called her .Wishing the vodka allowance was more than 2 bottles .The book" 50 shades of grey "in her hand ,

Ha-hha-hha!! :) Or the book "The white massai" ;) I literally have seen 2 single old women in the beach in Tunisia (they were about 75 years old) with the book "The white Massai" in their hands. They changed their bikini in every hours, and one of them always put her leg up to the "mast" of the parasol! :eek::D They always participate in every aquagym with young male animators... Their face was the same as the grandmother's face was in the American Pie 3, after the accidental sexual action with Stifler. It was funny to see them, at the same time it was disgusting. :(
 
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