The Legendary Tunisian Sulk

Pancake

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BTW - the delusion has already started in this detail:
But they saw eachother once before her's converting and were intimate. She even recitate that thing, like an oath with him to become Muslim. They talk about religion, she saw him praying, was teaching her all sorts of things about islam. And now...here comes her issue: he said he wants to protect her in order to be real muslim, and to be togeder in right way under their religious law. He told her the next time they meet they should restrain from having sex.
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No sex before marriage goes for every devoted muslim. Man and woman. Not only the woman. He, "muslim", had sex. He is not a good muslim. Period. He only starts talking the "not having sex to protect HER" bullshit after she said she considered becoming a muslim. He should not have had sex with her to start with if he's serious with his religion.

Perhaps you could also tell your friend that in Tunisia, women are considered inferior to men. Not only in the Tunisian beliefs, but also in Tunisian law. That conviction goes very deep in Tunisia - you as a woman are inferior, you have less rights than any man, simply because you are a woman. The extend of what that means, in daily life and in important matters of life, is almost impossible to grasp for any woman who grew up in a non-religious country.
 

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The extend of what that means, in daily life and in important matters of life, is almost impossible to grasp for any woman who grew up in a non-religious country.
Yes....it was a shock for me...and I didn't convert! I was still treated like rat would treat a Muslim wife though, having to walk looking at the ground to avoid eye contact, being kept inside the house, not allowed outside without a family member (preferably himself) accompanying me, controlled, manipulated, ties forcibly being cut with friends and family, being told what to wear, how to think etc....it's a crazy life for a woman!
 

Liona

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BTW - the delusion has already started in this detail:
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No sex before marriage goes for every devoted muslim. Man and woman. Not only the woman. He, "muslim", had sex. He is not a good muslim. Period. He only starts talking the "not having sex to protect HER" bullshit after she said she considered becoming a muslim. He should not have had sex with her to start with if he's serious with his religion.

Perhaps you could also tell your friend that in Tunisia, women are considered inferior to men. Not only in the Tunisian beliefs, but also in Tunisian law. That conviction goes very deep in Tunisia - you as a woman are inferior, you have less rights than any man, simply because you are a woman. The extend of what that means, in daily life and in important matters of life, is almost impossible to grasp for any woman who grew up in a non-religious country.
Great @Pancake quoted this text, because I have noticed now one very important thing : this man does not respect the girl, he does not respect her as a human, for who she is, he is ready to respect her only on some conditions. In this story these conditions are being muslim girl. Could this be the genuine feelings? No chance. That what made an alarm for me.
 

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In one way, she has been brain washed since you, like her girlfriend, try to warn her, it may be something you see others as she does not see. The best thing would have been if she listened to the warnings. He will probably say you are not good friends for her? That way, she will be more isolated, I'm afraid of.
 

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In one way, she has been brain washed since you, like her girlfriend, try to warn her, it may be something you see others as she does not see. The best thing would have been if she listened to the warnings. He will probably say you are not good friends for her? That way, she will be more isolated, I'm afraid of.
Yup, that's the sad truth. Anybody that tries to warn a victim is eventually cut out by the rats....they slowly create problems and poison your mind about the person that tries to open your eyes, you find yourself believing the rats lies because of the extent of brainwashing he does. To safeguard their potential visa, they think nothing of tearing apart families and friendships with lies and manipulation :Cry:
 

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Do not understand western women as converts to Islam and cover themselves. Yes, if they really fit in, 100% would like this, it's their choice but it's strange that they are doing it fast when they have got a Muslim boyfriend. He changes her right away. seems that it is strange that she does not say what she means. These men must have extremely much power over the women? Is not it strange that women can be ruled in this way?
 

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Do not understand western women as converts to Islam and cover themselves. Yes, if they really fit in, 100% would like this, it's their choice but it's strange that they are doing it fast when they have got a Muslim boyfriend. He changes her right away. seems that it is strange that she does not say what she means. These men must have extremely much power over the women? Is not it strange that women can be ruled in this way?
No, not so strange. You need to bear in mind that these women are heavily manipulated and brainwashed by the rat....some of them will do whatever it takes to keep him and gain his approval...including converting to an ideology that will ultimately completely oppress her, and take away pretty much every Western freedom she knew. It's sad, really sad, as even when she leaves the rat and the ideology, she will never be who she was before.
 

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Yes. That I understood. But having all this time spent into putting her on the right path, sounds kinda legit. Dk.

No no no, i know many rats who have converted their partner, the reason i have no clue about, i actually think they do it to see how far they can go with the partner. What the partner is actually willing to do for him and to make their relationship more convincing
 

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i'm tunisian and all you say is true , they are always complaining about everything ,nothing is ever good enough for them ! i'm 21 years old and i've had a relationship once it was so bad i hate every second of it , i'll share the story with you ( because i hate tunisian people as much as you do although i'am one of them :Cry: ) .I met this ugly monster on facebook he told me he was modern ,open minded ,likes independent women and most importantly he's not muslim ,we talked for 2 months and then decided to have a real date ( he lived in monastir and i in tunis ) he told me he lost his job and have no money so i went there to see him ,i offered to pay for the coffee and the lunch ( he said no at the beginning but i insisted ) ,after that date he said he liked me and that i didn't look fake ,ugly and blue like other girls ( they call olive skinned girls blue and ugly ) i didn't like his attitude and told him about that but he kept saying his opinion is based on facts ( he thinks girls here are ugly black whores who put on too much makeup ) the majority of men here share his opinion as well which is disgusting because they have the same olive colored skin as the girls they talk about .anyway after a month or so i noticed that i was always doing the effort to call him because he never called or he would but will say i don't have money please call me back ,i ignored this and met him again that time he didn't offer to pay ( i payed all the times we had about 25 dates ) , i really hate the mentality which says that men should pay because i believe i'am equal to men and i can pay as well but when i did that he took advantage of me and told all his friends that i'm a cheap,naive and stupid whore ( because i trusted him to talk about everything even sex ) ,it was a hard learned lesson ! i hate the women as well because they are so desperate ,hypocrite not to mention their greediness ( i have a cousin who will get married to someone just because he's rich and he buys gifts for her and her sisters :mad: ) , i will never find love here nor sympathy , i have few friends ,most of the people don't like me lool they think i'm crazy and rude and not to forget the very famous " dirty infidel " :D:D
I'm glad ur a decent normal human being Godbless u . I hate those little hijab bitches over there thinking theyte better than us my tahan nasshole husband had nothing until he came here all of a sudden loads of tunisian women adding him thinking I will marry him hes got money x
 

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Ha, the legendary sulking! Brilliant.....and certainly worthy of its own thread! :D
Spoilt freakin, self centred mummies boys :rolleyes:
I used to get the silent treatment....whilst living with him!! Never felt so damn uncomfortable in my life...it's kinda funny, but actually, it's cruel, horrible and controlling. They really are like stroppy, little pre schoolers throwing a paddy :rolleyes:
Yes it feels horrible, after a long time of repeating patterns it does make you question if indeed you are doing wrong to the other person to the point of making him react this way. As long as days pass and more information I read, I can realize this is just manipulation and a tactic to keep on hold their victim. And gives chance to give attention to other victims on reserve. I can clearly see how cruel he treated me. Funny the conquering time was about three months after that all doomed and it endured a year and two months....way lot more suffering than joy.
 

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He sounds just like my bastard....always handy and ready to please....I was treated like a queen!
Refused to ask for money too.....all part of the plan to fool you into believing he isn't using you for a visa :rolleyes:
mine used to treat me like a queen at first, then he turned violent, rude... cruel but intermitent with excuses to make sure I would stay. I wish I had stepped out sooner. Gave many excuses for him: maybe his culture... maybe his religion... maybe he feels too much stress. This would be unacceptable from my part to excuse a man from my country, at first sign just run. I still don’t understand why his charm was that strong. Or why I invented him as a perfect man. No match at all.
 

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Yes it feels horrible, after a long time of repeating patterns it does make you question if indeed you are doing wrong to the other person to the point of making him react this way. As long as days pass and more information I read, I can realize this is just manipulation and a tactic to keep on hold their victim. And gives chance to give attention to other victims on reserve. I can clearly see how cruel he treated me. Funny the conquering time was about three months after that all doomed and it endured a year and two months....way lot more suffering than joy.
mine was exactly the same. Mental abuse. I never realized it but since I found this website a lot of things are clear to me and it is not my fault he is a rat for sure. Want to thank everybody who writes here to make it all clear to me even the rats who write here.
 

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You will read a lot here in different posts about how the Tunisian Love Rat sulks. I thought it deserved its own thread.

Sulking or feeling offended is endemic. I’ve never known anyone to sulk like a Tunisian man. It’s the height of hipocracy, they can make all kinds of unreasonable demands and exhibit atricious behaviour but call them out on it and they go into an incredible SULK. Sulking presents itself in many ways. If it’s on line then it’s often the silent treatment, refusing to answer messages or calls. Face to face it’s a bombardment of abuse. Supposedly hurt feelings, refusing to speak or ignoring the most simple request or conversation. It’s the kind of behaviour that we expect of 4 year olds or teenage boys in puberty. They can sulk for any reason. Food they don’t like, clothes not clean, lack of WiFi, they act as though the world is against them. They are victims of some terrible injustice. They gossip, they are the kings of gossip, bad mouthing their family, neighbours, friends, employers, but if they hear something about themselves it’s catestrophic! The most simple problem turns into a mammoth sulk. In our often naive but consiliatory ways we try to bring them round, smooth troubled waters just for an easier life. Their mothers cosset and spoil them and eventually everything is ok until the next sulk. I think it comes from a feeling that they are entitled and that they should have an easy life in return for fulfilling their role as head of the family, that everyone should be grateful. I’ve never met anyone else who could sulk so professionally.
Classic narcissist
 
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