To all readers from USA and Canada...

Laurence

Major Ratslayer
Hello,

The "old" continent, Europe, closing slowly its border by hardening spouse immigration laws and criteria, the Tunisian internet rats changed also their target countries, ladies from Canada and the USA becoming more and more aimed. European ladies learned it the hard way, thousands and thousands of them being bitten by Tunisian rats through financial, emotional and spousal scamming, they are now more and more armed (through experience, heresay, national law enforcments, TV programs and sites like this one) against the rattery. But USA and Canadian ladies still seem so very naive and unaware of how these Tunisian internet rats operate and what their aims are with them. These ladies think in their own local way (very respectful and with good intentions, proper to their education and surroiundings) and are the ideal victims for these rats! They do have years and years of experience to catch up in comparison to their European sisters (who, by the way, still got trapped as well!)

So this is ment for you American and Canadian ladies! Scamming, talking smoothly a lady into marriage, obtaining money and papers, that's all these internet rats are after. They don't even know what the word "love" means, they just know it works perfectly well with ladies that are in need of attention, caring, flaming love declarations, marriage demands, a lovely man in their lives....especially when the lady is weakened by recent divorce, death of a beloved one, ungrateful looks, elder age, loneliness etc...

So, please, when a Tunisian (mostly younger) man is approaching you on the internet (Facebook, Badoo, other dating or even touristical sites), don't fall into the trap. All these men are after is money and papers to get out of the country into the ElDorado (that's what they think of foreign countries). They're smooth talkers, they learned how to use (fake) love for their aims. Be Wise and aware of this and don't let them the chance of talking you into a virtual Relationship, as this is the first step into misery for you and your beloved ones!!!!
 

crystal

The Punchy Scot
Hello,

The "old" continent, Europe, closing slowly its border by hardening spouse immigration laws and criteria, the Tunisian internet rats changed also their target countries, ladies from Canada and the USA becoming more and more aimed. European ladies learned it the hard way, thousands and thousands of them being bitten by Tunisian rats through financial, emotional and spousal scamming, they are now more and more armed (through experience, heresay, national law enforcments, TV programs and sites like this one) against the rattery. But USA and Canadian ladies still seem so very naive and unaware of how these Tunisian internet rats operate and what their aims are with them. These ladies think in their own local way (very respectful and with good intentions, proper to their education and surroiundings) and are the ideal victims for these rats! They do have years and years of experience to catch up in comparison to their European sisters (who, by the way, still got trapped as well!)

So this is ment for you American and Canadian ladies! Scamming, talking smoothly a lady into marriage, obtaining money and papers, that's all these internet rats are after. They don't even know what the word "love" means, they just know it works perfectly well with ladies that are in need of attention, caring, flaming love declarations, marriage demands, a lovely man in their lives....especially when the lady is weakened by recent divorce, death of a beloved one, ungrateful looks, elder age, loneliness etc...

So, please, when a Tunisian (mostly younger) man is approaching you on the internet (Facebook, Badoo, other dating or even touristical sites), don't fall into the trap. All these men are after is money and papers to get out of the country into the ElDorado (that's what they think of foreign countries). They're smooth talkers, they learned how to use (fake) love for their aims. Be Wise and aware of this and don't let them the chance of talking you into a virtual Relationship, as this is the first step into misery for you and your beloved ones!!!!
Might I add Laurence..... that these men will keep up a pretense for many years , they will include there families in the scam, beware of the brothers, and friends, they will put elaborate plans in place to reel you in .. There ego and arrogance is unbelievable and unfortunately in some case violent and dangerous. their biggest scam is the sympathy card. The meaning of Love to them is sex money and a passport. They will use many different tactics and not all are the same. Their memories are astounding when it comes to a scam. They are very good at sussing out what they can get from you and what method to use to achieve this. They do not care about you and your family, the harm they do to you, health financially emotionally mentally. They will bleed you dry, and spit you out. and when they have what they want they will marry there Tunisian woman behind your back walk away with as much money as they can and not give you another thought. Even if you have children with them.. They will continue to contact you afterwards until they are home dry to keep you "sweet" no matter what dirty deeds they have done. Advise....If it does not feel right..it never is...Do not compromise for a long Distance Relationship. Do not give money thinking that it is for both your futures and relationship as you would with a spouse from your own Country. It is not the same, you are realms apart. Think outside the box to your future.. there are cultures religion and way of life that cannot be adapted to. He will adapt to nothing. and will not change..he does not think he has to....
 

Laurence

Major Ratslayer
Tunisiand rats have already torn apart lots of families in Europe, so they will certainly do the same in USA and Canada.
I know of a case where a woman "lost" all of her children in the rattery procedure, she woke up from her fake lovedream at some point, but just to find out that she was all alone, no children in her home anymore, as they all had choosen to leave her to her destructive self and the fake relation with her rat. Cases of suicide happened, once the women had to face reality and bitterness...did the rats care??? No way, they probably just found another victim to take advantage of...
 

MissMetal

Major Ratslayer
My goodness ladies !! Miss metal wanting it to "Stay up" BG wanting it "sticky ontop " Tunisiansun "making it sticky" ,To all the male members reading this thread ,if you type and the letters on your keyboard get stuck ,,,,,We"ll know why!!:sneaky:
Well we were talking about fireman and policemen in another thread...it kinda got hot in here...and all sorts of thoughts just......:sneaky:
 
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Pearla

Guest
May I also add to your post? The other GREAT reason why these guys are targeting USA and Canada now, because they are aware that it is FAR away. A European lady can fly to Tunisia for 200 Euros most, but for us, from this continent, ONE TICKET costs minimum 1600$. Therefor, if they can find a willing/loving/caring/needing woman, who will commit to fly there and spend 4 days just traveling, jet-lag, plus hotel and other costs. TOP of that airfare, gifts? Now think, how many times can you afford to fly there to hang around with your sweetheart? They just want to get married as soon they can, and unless you are very well off, or putting yourself through some financial disaster like I did for my man, it is not easy to do, and at the end... you will pay for it all. BIG TIME. Please save your time and money for another place. Its not worth it. These boys can be cute for a while, until things go on their way, but just try to put some obstacle on their way, and you will see their true color coming out. They are not loyal, once they find a crack in your relationship, they need plan B and plan C, D, and E. They will look for other victims. 5 minutes after you finish your chat on Skype. Sorry, but this is reality
 

Etoyoc

Major Ratslayer
I wonder ... hasn't the US no their very own Tunisias nearby to the South? Or do things work different with latin america?
 
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Galadriel

Guest
Good question Etoyoc, I`d love to know the answer, but one thing I can say, many Canadian and American businesses moved down south all at once when a trading regulation came into practise therefore creating sweatshop work but at least work in Mexico.....
 
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Galadriel

Guest
Thought there was a high barbed wire fence with border guards patrolling night and day Mezoo ? guys making mad dashes for the US?
 

Laurence

Major Ratslayer
Somehow, as I've got the impression that in the USA and Canada, people are highly influenced by the "judeo-christian" way of thinking, the women (and maybe men as well) there are easy preys for tunisian internet rats, who live in a different world and don't care one second about feelings...Also, as Pearla said, the huge distance from Tunisia to those countries does contribute to the "rapid marriage"-wishes of the rats.
 
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Galadriel

Guest
Somehow, as I've got the impression that in the USA and Canada, people are highly influenced by the "judeo-christian" way of thinking, the women (and maybe men as well) there are easy preys for tunisian internet rats, who live in a different world and don't care one second about feelings...Also, as Pearla said, the huge distance from Tunisia to those countries does contribute to the "rapid marriage"-wishes of the rats.
yes Lawrence imo you are spot on but even stronger than traditional judeo/christian, fundamentalist at that....
 

Laurence

Major Ratslayer
It always makes me laugh in myself when I hear or read a woman saying that "we must respect the difference between our culture and the one in Tunisia" , because they really think that most Tunisians are going to show the same respect towards them...NO WAY they will, they will only fake some respect as long as they can take advantage of them and as soon as that is gone...they will wish them to hell, that's the kind of rexpect they'll get from them! It's a whole different mindset here, nothing to see with "everybody is nice, caring and loving his fellow human" embedded in these women's mind! Ideal rat victims, I can assure that!
 
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Pearla

Guest
It always makes me laugh in myself when I hear or read a woman saying that "we must respect the difference between our culture and the one in Tunisia" , because they really think that most Tunisians are going to show the same respect towards them...NO WAY they will, they will only fake some respect as long as they can take advantage of them and as soon as that is gone...they will wish them to hell, that's the kind of rexpect they'll get from them! It's a whole different mindset here, nothing to see with "everybody is nice, caring and loving his fellow human" embedded in these women's mind! Ideal rat victims, I can assure that!

example of this great respect;

Things were not going well between me and Amine, for several reasons and for a long time. We were arguing. He was saying really bad things to me and calling me names. I asked him, what would you do if Siwar's ( his sisters) husband would talk to her like this?
He said: he would not talk to her like this, BECAUSE SHE IS NOT LIKE YOU, she is different and loving and she does everything (!!) for her husband, and always makes him happy.... obviosuly, I was not considered doing anything, for 3 years, of course I am not Tunisian.

(need to know, that she is also waiting for a visa, but to France, she married one of their cousins who moved there years ago, in which circumstances he did, I don't know, it still takes an awful long time for him to get her papers, so I am sure she is nice to him)
 
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Galadriel

Guest
example of this great respect;

Things were not going well between me and Amine, for several reasons and for a long time. We were arguing. He was saying really bad things to me and calling me names. I asked him, what would you do if Siwar's ( his sisters) husband would talk to her like this?
He said: he would not talk to her like this, BECAUSE SHE IS NOT LIKE YOU, she is different and loving and she does everything (!!) for her husband, and always makes him happy.... obviosuly, I was not considered doing anything, for 3 years, of course I am not Tunisian.

(need to know, that she is also waiting for a visa, but to France, she married one of their cousins who moved there years ago, in which circumstances he did, I don't know, it still takes an awful long time for him to get her papers, so I am sure she is nice to him)
At the first instance of any man talking like that to me I would just have given him a few choice words and kicked his ass out the door -end of- :mad: no one just no one has any right to speak like that !
 
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Pearla

Guest
I am not sure if you guys are trying to JUDGE me here? What I have done in the first instance or not, how I handled it,
you don't know. Do you? Yes, he was given choices... and NO, he did not run to his mom, he is not like that. Life goes on, and he was backing off, but again, if you remember any of my story... I got sick with cancer.. and any man on this planet would have had a hard time with it, even in the same country, same house, never mind far away. I became bitchy, was on a lot of drugs, and needed a lot of attention, and he did not know what to do.. so, I did not get what I needed.
Possibly he did not love me the way I needed it. I m not protecting him! Just saying, it was a hell of a time for everyone around me. Talking badly to me.... its not something I can handle either!
 

MissMetal

Major Ratslayer
I am not sure if you guys are trying to JUDGE me here? What I have done in the first instance or not, how I handled it,
you don't know. Do you? Yes, he was given choices... and NO, he did not run to his mom, he is not like that. Life goes on, and he was backing off, but again, if you remember any of my story... I got sick with cancer.. and any man on this planet would have had a hard time with it, even in the same country, same house, never mind far away. I became bitchy, was on a lot of drugs, and needed a lot of attention, and he did not know what to do.. so, I did not get what I needed.
Possibly he did not love me the way I needed it. I m not protecting him! Just saying, it was a hell of a time for everyone around me. Talking badly to me.... its not something I can handle either!
I think they are judging him for not handling it well.
 
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Galadriel

Guest
Exactly MissMetal, saying what I would never put up with from a guy from the beginning Pearla. Wish you all the very best of course but when you post all reactions will appear. Yes tough for any partner but they do all react differently in any stressful situations and some can show great tenderness.
 

MacCoinneach

Major Ratslayer
Hi all,

I've recently spoke to a girl who is planning to marry a Tunisian guy in January. She's from the States. As far as I can see, she's never been to Tunisia or met him - she always posts photos of him, him with his friends, but I'm yet to see a photo of her & him together or of her in Tunisia. It's really not my responsibility to figure out if the guy is a rat or not (although I did search his name and nothing came up), I'm sure this girl has probably heard it all before from other people, but I'm really concerned about what she's getting herself into... She said they've been 'on and off' for 5 years, so it's possible I'm wrong and that she has been there and met him, but she's only 18, still got another 2 or 3 years left of her education, either way it doesn't sound at all good to me! Any suggestions what I should do...if anything at all?
 
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