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MH007

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We filed for the CR1 immigrant visa in early April after we returned from our honeymoon. We did not have a long history of relationship as we had met online and we married during our first meeting. The only things we had available to show at the time was a joint Tunisian bank account, wedding photos,receipts for wedding/honeymoon expenses, our joint Tunisian lease signed by landlord and validated by the local municipality office. It takes time to process the application so while it was being processed we continued to just stash away things as proof. So photos, or receipts from things we did together, etc were just kept to the side as proof to show the consulate when interview day came, though we didn't need to show them. We just showed up for the interview and they gave him the visa with hardly any questions or asking for additional proof... So no, you don't need two years of proof for the CR1, the proof we provided was from the first few weeks of marriage only and was easily approved.
That's worrying!
 

Cydney

Major Ratslayer
That's worrying!
To be honest, it was worrying to us too even though we were the beneficiaries of this system.

We expected to have to provide a lot more proof and answer many questions at the interview because we had filed so quickly after the wedding, but nothing. The only reassuring thing about the system is that at least they only give a two year greencard and then after that you have to prove again the marriage is valid before you get the permanent greencard. If you have been married for longer than two years already, you can just apply straight away for the permanent greencard but anything less than that and they give you two years on trial and then you have to prove the marriage is valid again.
 
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Lellaji

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@Cydney wow id say you were very lucky and you were right about the details however, yes, if we are 2 years married then we just do the 10 year permanent and skip the extra money and waiting...i already brought a rat here but he wasnt tunisian and anyway my situation going to be different for 2 reasons, according to USCIS seeing i brought one here then quickly married another and #2 according to me im not going to be so easy to help bring another rat here especially since he already told me he "couldnt wait forever" just outed his damn self
 

Cydney

Major Ratslayer
@Cydney wow id say you were very lucky and you were right about the details however, yes, if we are 2 years married then we just do the 10 year permanent and skip the extra money and waiting...i already brought a rat here but he wasnt tunisian and anyway my situation going to be different for 2 reasons, according to USCIS seeing i brought one here then quickly married another and #2 according to me im not going to be so easy to help bring another rat here especially since he already told me he "couldnt wait forever" just outed his damn self
Well it sounds like you were lucky too even though it doesn't feel like it right now. Good thing he showed his colors early enough for you to get out before investing even more of your time, energy, love and money into him. I'm really sorry for all that you are enduring, I can feel the heartache, confusion, and rightful anger in your posts.

I have also gone through the greencard process before with my first husband. I didn't need a visa for him though since he was already in the USA on an overstayed tourist visa. We did all the GC stuff from within the USA. We were married for five years before he passed away. I had to submit his death certificate with the application as proof. I sometimes wonder if the fact that I was the widow of a man from a MENA country and had been in a successful intercultural marriage before helped them with the decision.
 
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rose711

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Well it sounds like you were lucky too even though it doesn't feel like it right now. Good thing he showed his colors early enough for you to get out before investing even more of your time, energy, love and money into him. I'm really sorry for all that you are enduring, I can feel the heartache, confusion, and rightful anger in your posts.

I have also gone through the greencard process before with my first husband. I didn't need a visa for him though since he was already in the USA on an overstayed tourist visa. We did all the GC stuff from within the USA. We were married for five years before he passed away. I had to submit his death certificate with the application as proof. I sometimes wonder if the fact that I was the widow of a man from a MENA country and had been in a successful intercultural marriage before helped them with the decision.
I'm sure your previous marriage helped you because it was successful. Her previous marriage will definitely hurt her because it was unsuccessful.
Immigration decisions are very fact driven. Each situation is unique.
 
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Lellaji

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@rose711 @Cydney it really hurts because I wished that I never brought the Moroccan here after all i Went thru and endured and then getting away but to have him here and just the bad history of it all, i felt bad with my current husband b/c its true i was nursing some big injuries but i was overcoming all that and moving on never thinking to be in situation to bring another foreigner here..once you been through the process and you lose in the end, why should I jump at the first man who shows me love or devotion? well i would never have abandoned my current husband as he has me, we would have figured it out and i would have made Shite happen if he stood by me and acted the way he should. i had to be certain before taking another chance and doing same thing again, but for him to turn around and snap out and act out over..money? fucking money, really? that HE doesnt have any of...and the VISA he so acted like he didnt care about....so yeah i was nervous about how USCIS would view the application with the Tunisian and let's face it, Tunisia not looking great right now as far as US wanting to take chances bringing them here with all this Shite going on and Tunisians going to fight with ISIS and ISIS creeping into to Tunisia now....
 
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rose711

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@rose711 @Cydney it really hurts because I wished that I never brought the Moroccan here after all i Went thru and endured and then getting away but to have him here and just the bad history of it all, i felt bad with my current husband b/c its true i was nursing some big injuries but i was overcoming all that and moving on never thinking to be in situation to bring another foreigner here..once you been through the process and you lose in the end, why should I jump at the first man who shows me love or devotion? well i would never have abandoned my current husband as he has me, we would have figured it out and i would have made Shite happen if he stood by me and acted the way he should. i had to be certain before taking another chance and doing same thing again, but for him to turn around and snap out and act out over..money? fucking money, really? that HE doesnt have any of...and the VISA he so acted like he didnt care about....so yeah i was nervous about how USCIS would view the application with the Tunisian and let's face it, Tunisia not looking great right now as far as US wanting to take chances bringing them here with all this Shite going on and Tunisians going to fight with ISIS and ISIS creeping into to Tunisia now....
I'm not an expert on Administrative Processing but I believe that even if you had the money he may not have gotten a visa for a long time or maybe ever.
You would have lost even more Money and time.
I don't think he would have stayed through the process of he already gives up.
If he is known to have mentioned online or otherwise to have threatened going to Libya for "work", he may already be on a list that will make it impossible to come to the US. It's a long list that gets longer every day. So he may have ruined his own chances.

Tunisian do get into the U.S.. It's a tiny number (around 400 )compared to the number of immigrants. But it is complicated and many men end up in Administrative Processing.
 
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May I also add to your post? The other GREAT reason why these guys are targeting USA and Canada now, because they are aware that it is FAR away. A European lady can fly to Tunisia for 200 Euros most, but for us, from this continent, ONE TICKET costs minimum 1600$. Therefor, if they can find a willing/loving/caring/needing woman, who will commit to fly there and spend 4 days just traveling, jet-lag, plus hotel and other costs. TOP of that airfare, gifts? Now think, how many times can you afford to fly there to hang around with your sweetheart? They just want to get married as soon they can, and unless you are very well off, or putting yourself through some financial disaster like I did for my man, it is not easy to do, and at the end... you will pay for it all. BIG TIME. Please save your time and money for another place. Its not worth it. These boys can be cute for a while, until things go on their way, but just try to put some obstacle on their way, and you will see their true color coming out. They are not loyal, once they find a crack in your relationship, they need plan B and plan C, D, and E. They will look for other victims. 5 minutes after you finish your chat on Skype. Sorry, but this is reality
So So true!!!!!!!!
 

Tiger

Major Ratslayer
The main reason Tunisian Rats now chase women from US are that most western European countries now have close the boarders so it is very difficult, nearly impossible for the Rats to get visa here. Even with a marriage certificate in their hand they do not get visa. Imigration authorities are well aware of young Tunisian men who marriage often older (also younger) western women just for visa.
Many Rats are stuck in Tunisia , marriage to European women, and have been rejected visa. The jungle telegraph go between the Rats. So they believe the chance for a green card to the US or a visa to Canada are bigger then getting into Western Europe and Scandinavia
 
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it's also because of the ecomonic crisis and the arab's reputation in the EU.

A graduated person can find work in France for example but a rat with no skills will find nothing and even if he does he is highly dependant on his wife. if she asks for divorce before 4 or 5 years of commun life he's resident card is canceled, and jobs that rats can occupu arent that well paid.

they are getting aware of all of this and trying some new strategies.
 
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Briella

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I was a victim to a Tunisian male whose age was 28. We met on a dating app, Tinder, where his profile message was i search the true love...... I obviously should have known that it was to good to be true. He actually had his green card, was 6ft tall, and lives in the US, spoke some english (not that great), french and arabic. When i first went to see him i had to travel to see him because he didn't have a car, only a bike. It took about 45min to get there. On our first get together/ date i thought it was stranged when he told me I am his girlfriend after kissing him at the end of our date.( Boy didn't even ask me if I wanted to be with him). Our relationship lasted for a week, before i opened my eyes to his trickery. First of all I am not the PDA type or lovey dovey type. So when he was giving me all these signs of affection by kissing me and speaking french to me I thought it was cute. But long behold after trying to communicate with him it seemed as if he always ignored problems and would push for flattery by saying he love's me (after knowing me for only 3 days?? Oh boy does he move fast) and skipping over any concerns for actual communication other then to try to turn me on and touch my body. Very touchy feely, but tried to lie and say he wants to get to know me ( i never trust these boys so i always had my guard up and know guys will say bullshit to score one on a female). Well it took me on the 7th day of being with him and after my 3rd visit traveling to go see him and specifically speaking about arrangements on how we would see each other, it became clear to me that he was looking to me to make the commute to see him. I was too scared to tell him in person during our last encounter that i waited till i got home to tell him that i was no longer going to see him and delete my number, blocked him on facebook and snapchat and told him I found him controlling ( he tried to tell me what foods i should be eating, and how he wants me to stay how I am and not eat these certain foods or I will get fat. As well as he had the nerve to bring up kids, and how he wants a boy, because girls will leave and go off with their husbands, and boys won't. He then mentions his boy cannot leave him and if he was to leave him he would kill him), he smelled like onions everytime i met him (did he ever try deodarant), oh then there was the aggressiveness to try to seduce me to have sex with him after letting him know that I did not have any intentions of having sex unless it was marital related. Boy there were alot of red flags that I caught from him and I hope I can encourage yall to stay away from this Tunisian man. Yeah its cute in the beginning the accent, his height, oh and he had green eyes that were dreamy. But me being african american and being with this arab looking muslim boy, i knew there was too many differences. I'm just still wondering to this day why did I try to take on such a challenge and almost put myself through the hell of being used?

-》:/ beware of Malik Chouai
 
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Mango Chutney

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he smelled like onions everytime i met him (did he ever try deodarant)
All the other members will understand why I have focused on and highlighted this line!!! Omg, it wasn't just mine!!
And now, for more serious stuff. I am so glad you saw through him so quickly and removed him from your life before he caused any serious harm, he sounds like a complete control freak, a trait shared by all rats. Don't beat yourself up over the whys, we've all been there and the answers are just not forthcoming. They truly are a breed like no other. Just be grateful you had the sense to get away from him fast, many of us suffered for much longer. Big hugs for you and a huge well done for coming here to warn other women xxx

Quick edit: I do not know how to post a link, but if you type 'Rat hygiene' into the 'search forum' option, you will see why I am sitting here crying with laughter :D
 
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Hi dear and welcome :)
Did he get his green card by marrying a US citizen ? Is he divorced ? How long is he in the States ?
 
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Briella

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I never asked how he got his green card, he just told me he had his green card, and had only been living in the US for 1 month. I am convinced that maybe he was lying about saying that he lives with his friends, when maybe he had a wife? I don't know because we never met at his house always locations near his home and he told me that his friend didn't like him having visitors. But our communication was so hard that he tried to not talk to me that much in english so what i know about him is so little. Because i would literally have to keep insisting for him to answer my questions and he would divert to something he liked about me (soo irrevelant). It was downright annoying the games he tried to play with me. And that was just like the tipping stone for me to notice his bullshit. He tried to tell me to travel with him to Paris and show me things while I would show him things about the US and help him experience the different foods. We even had somewhat of a car talk because he was commuting on bike and I think he realized that there is alot to think about when buying a car in the US, that he said you will help me? (Lmao). Like there was so many questionable things about his intentions that I began to think he is really trying to get a female to help him build his wealth. Its weird though because in Tunisia he was an accoutant so he worked, but in america he was making minimum wage at a car business then quit his job recently to work in a hotel as a waiter he supposed. It was funny because when he showed me the working papers i said what job did he apply for, and he was first like I don't know (soo how do you go to an interview and don't know the job you applied for), then guessed i think i will be waiter. I asked him how much he will make yearly and he ignored question. Lmao well he will struggle unless another victim falls into his trap :/
 
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Briella

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Yes I do, on facebook his name is Malik Chaou.... i dont know how to post this on gallery so here it is
 

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I was a victim to a Tunisian male whose age was 28. We met on a dating app, Tinder, where his profile message was i search the true love...... I obviously should have known that it was to good to be true. He actually had his green card, was 6ft tall, and lives in the US, spoke some english (not that great), french and arabic. When i first went to see him i had to travel to see him because he didn't have a car, only a bike. It took about 45min to get there. On our first get together/ date i thought it was stranged when he told me I am his girlfriend after kissing him at the end of our date.( Boy didn't even ask me if I wanted to be with him). Our relationship lasted for a week, before i opened my eyes to his trickery. First of all I am not the PDA type or lovey dovey type. So when he was giving me all these signs of affection by kissing me and speaking french to me I thought it was cute. But long behold after trying to communicate with him it seemed as if he always ignored problems and would push for flattery by saying he love's me (after knowing me for only 3 days?? Oh boy does he move fast) and skipping over any concerns for actual communication other then to try to turn me on and touch my body. Very touchy feely, but tried to lie and say he wants to get to know me ( i never trust these boys so i always had my guard up and know guys will say bullshit to score one on a female). Well it took me on the 7th day of being with him and after my 3rd visit traveling to go see him and specifically speaking about arrangements on how we would see each other, it became clear to me that he was looking to me to make the commute to see him. I was too scared to tell him in person during our last encounter that i waited till i got home to tell him that i was no longer going to see him and delete my number, blocked him on facebook and snapchat and told him I found him controlling ( he tried to tell me what foods i should be eating, and how he wants me to stay how I am and not eat these certain foods or I will get fat. As well as he had the nerve to bring up kids, and how he wants a boy, because girls will leave and go off with their husbands, and boys won't. He then mentions his boy cannot leave him and if he was to leave him he would kill him), he smelled like onions everytime i met him (did he ever try deodarant), oh then there was the aggressiveness to try to seduce me to have sex with him after letting him know that I did not have any intentions of having sex unless it was marital related. Boy there were alot of red flags that I caught from him and I hope I can encourage yall to stay away from this Tunisian man. Yeah its cute in the beginning the accent, his height, oh and he had green eyes that were dreamy. But me being african american and being with this arab looking muslim boy, i knew there was too many differences. I'm just still wondering to this day why did I try to take on such a challenge and almost put myself through the hell of being used?

-》:/ beware of Malik Chouai
With his poor english, I guess he worked at a car wash. A hotel will not take a man, who only speaks bad english, for a waiter. Work as a Dish washer is more likely. His claim to have been an accountand in Tunisia has to be taken with a pinch of salt ;)
 
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Mango Chutney

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I never asked how he got his green card, he just told me he had his green card,
I agree, I suspect there is another woman involved here somewhere. One month since arrival and he's probably already cheating on her - lowlife :mad:
we never met at his house always locations near his home and he told me that his friend didn't like him having visitors.
I've read that somewhere here on another thread, the rat told his victim that his friends wouldn't like her to visit the house. Clearly this is one for the 'Common rat lies' section. The crap they come out with :rolleyes:
Because i would literally have to keep insisting for him to answer my questions and he would divert to something he liked about me
Definitely ratty behaviour, Houssem always diverted the conversation too. The trouble is, when they answer.....they slip up on their lies eventually, so easier to give no answer.
He tried to tell me to travel with him to Paris
Wonder who would have been paying for this holiday? :rolleyes:
when buying a car in the US, that he said you will help me?
Bloody hell, this cheeky Shite didn't waste any time, did he?!! Oh my God, dirty lowlife, he can buy his own freakin car :mad:
Its weird though because in Tunisia he was an accoutant
I wouldn't believe a word of this, if it were true, he would be good husband material in Tunisia, the girls families would have been queueing up for him and he wouldn't have needed America. He's a bloody liar!
I don't know (soo how do you go to an interview and don't know the job you applied for)
He's such a lying toad!! :eek: And all this in a week?!! He really isn't wasting time, is he? Ditto what Heidi said, with his spoken English so poor, he can't work with the general public, he'll be washing dishes. Out of curiosity, how good is his written English?
unless another victim falls into his trap
Sadly, there will be another one and she probably won't be as perceptive as you :Cry: You realised fast and got away before he could cause any real harm...sensible girl!! Hopefully, by naming and shaming him here, you may just have saved another few, so well done :) Is he in the gallery? I'm worried he'll slip under the radar on this thread.
 
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Mango Chutney

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He could be a diversity lottery winner or sponsored by a close family member.
What is a diversity lottery winner please? I may have to Google that one :confused: I understand the sponsor option, I have cousins in Chicago and Reno that I could have asked for this, as I did contemplate looking for a childrens nanny position there, it was just too far from my own children though and I couldn't expect them to fly there for visits. But surely he would not have been issued with a Green Card within a month of arrival? I'll be the first to admit I don't really know the process of being given citizenship in America, but I thought it was two years before the GC was issued? :confused: Definitely getting me on Google!
 
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Mango Chutney

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Yeah, I read enough of it to get the gist, but once I wake up, I'll read the full report with a working brain....I'm kinda half functioning at the moment.
 

Cydney

Major Ratslayer
What is a diversity lottery winner please? I may have to Google that one :confused: I understand the sponsor option, I have cousins in Chicago and Reno that I could have asked for this, as I did contemplate looking for a childrens nanny position there, it was just too far from my own children though and I couldn't expect them to fly there for visits. But surely he would not have been issued with a Green Card within a month of arrival? I'll be the first to admit I don't really know the process of being given citizenship in America, but I thought it was two years before the GC was issued? :confused: Definitely getting me on Google!
diversity visa winners and cr1/ir1 visa recipients have a greencard from the moment they enter the USA. It takes a couple weeks to receive the actual greencard but until it is received, the visa can be used as a temporary greencard. These are immigrant visas so you get a greencard as part of the package. Citizenship can be applied for 3 years after arrival in the USA if you arrived on spousal visa and 5 years for other immigrant visas.
 
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