Urgent translation needed before wedding in 4 days

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  1. simple

    simple Well-Known Member

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    I believe Tunisia has just signed a deal with the EU <to make it easier for Tunisian citizens to get an EU visa.Reported in the Tunistribune.
     
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    I just read all this… I was away when this thread was started and only just noticed it because of the recent replies. I am absolutely shocked and disgusted, but in another sense not at all surprised. The chances of him being a good, faithful man of course are low, but I would've expected him to have some European girl in tow. Well, SarahJaney - you are much better off out of it, as hard as it may be right now, it's definitely for the best. I cannot imagine how you've been feeling or what you have gone through but I am glad you got the truth when you did - better late than never. Take care of yourself. Onwards & upwards.
     
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  3. MacCoinneach

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    I don't think it needs to be made any harder for people to get into the UK.

    My mum employed someone and she found it really difficult to do that,despite having access to all the money and documents needed but UKBA were having absolutely none of it. The poor guy managed to come to the UK but worked for months unpaid, and then when UKBA finally gave him the documents he needed, they then added stress by turning up a few months later questioning everyone at the school about whether or not he was a genuine worker there … A SCHOOL!

    I think what needs to be done is more to check the marriage is real, which I know you outlined before, Caramel, about 'scam' marriage whereby both parties are aware, but then the 'fake' marriages, whereby one of the partners is faking "genuine feelings" in order to benefit - it's a tricky one because UKBA seem to judge these relationships in entirely stupid ways, and I can't see how it's really possible to say a marriage is genuine or not, as no two marriages are the same anyway… I read one story from a woman whose husband was rejected his visa because they deemed her documents/evidence did not prove they had a relationship (the V-day card he wrote her 'lacked emotion')… she was also 4 months pregnant.

    It frustrates me that it's actually so hard for people to come here, because I have seen so much heartache over this (and I am not referring only to Tunisian husbands… American, Canadian, Australian, Russian, etc.), so I really don't think it needs to be made more difficult, but it needs to be monitored more - i.e. once someone is in the country, they are checked up on regularly - because as we all know, a lot of people to 'fake' their relationship, but once they've got what they want and have settled, that's when they show their true colours… and UKBA have the power to then say it was a fake marriage and therefore aren't legitimately allowed to remain in the UK…
     
  4. crystal

    crystal The Punchy Scot

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    Yes they curtail there visa... but they have the chance to appeal and can take a long time to deport them... if ever. they get false passports and documents to let them work... they are capable of anything... REmember although the spouse got them here the visa is ultimately there's and if all goes ape shit.. there is nothing you can do...and will not get info..
     
  5. MacCoinneach

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    But then this is what they need to change... They have the power to GIVE visas, they should have the power to retract them - by whatever rules are appropriate. I don't think someone should be punished if they come to the UK on a spouse visa then their marriage ends (IF it can be deemed there was a genuine relationship initially), but I still think they should have to then meet some further requirements in order to stay - i.e. a particular level of income, something like that. They have made some very strict rules to reduce immigration, but the actual problem is as a result of previous, more lenient rules. UKBA are an utter joke, that's for sure… but I don't think people should be punished for their poor abilities.
     
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    crystal The Punchy Scot

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    Yes Genuine people should be welcome..of course... as long as they work hard and have something to give. UKBA do retract the visa but they don't follow through. I immigrants do have plenty rights to appeal.... and put there points.. I do not think this is the issue.. the issue is that these men are given this time to scam and run up credit card bills with no intention to pay. THis needs to be tightened up and the process quickened.
     
  7. MacCoinneach

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    Totally agree! It's majorly screwed up and I can't see it getting any better any time soon…
     
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    marilyna Chocolate Connoisseur

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    No, I was thinking of a group of rats that have come over from Sousse.
     
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    If it were easier to obtain visas ,i dont believe it would stop the rats ,visa is the rainbow ,but the pot of gold is the dream.They want it all ,they are not prepared to immigrate to a country where they must work hard and save money .Their lazy and jealous .
     
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    Ooooh!! :eek::Cry:
     
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    Its not good news ,im not very good with computers ,prehaps you can put the link on here Alien ,,,ITs from Tunistribune .com and its in french .I had to google translate ,,,,
     
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    Oh God, it's a very bad news!!! :eek::Cry: If they come to EU and lie to the girls/women that they are form one of European countries, many-many tragedy could happen!!!! :( If I had a teenager daugther, I would worry about her! It's easy to impress them with their charm, and deceive them!! :(

    You will find enclosed the link as follows:

    http://www.tunistribune.com/

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  13. simple

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    You dont have to be a teenager ,to a rat any age will do ...Infact they prefer the older more established woman ,they have more money and stability .They dont want the responsability of a woman who cant provide for them.
     
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    They like the young girls for their looks and for sex though..so they are vulnerable too.
     
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    They like to get involved with the young girls family .Make a point of being charming to the girls mother ,,,believing they will help their daughter financially .I dont think they care what the girl looks like .A famous rat quote "I love your heart ,not your body"..Bollocks!!!!
     
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    They didn't bother trying to charm me! Whenever I was there to see who my daughters were with they beat a hasty retreat and didn't look me in the eye. Even so I didn't cotton on that they were underhand clever criminals that was revealed later.
     
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    They are clever ,,,,They all deserve oscars for their acting abilities .Why do women accept this kind of verbal rubbish ,"I love you you are my life" ,from a Tunisian ,but wonder what a western man is after ,if he says it !
     
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    Its got something to do with the holiday vibe, the sun and being away from the pressures of life back home. But saying that it doesn't work quite the same way in Turkey where you know immediately its bullshit. I think its as you say they are very convincing actors and they don't give up easy carrying on their pursuing on arrival back home
     
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  19. simple

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    Maybe Turkey ,has had more press media concerning rats .I dont know ,,,Some yellow toothed ,skinny ,scruffy ,teenager telling me "I am his life " Woudlnt quite work on me in South London !!!Id give him a £1 and go on my way ...
     
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    Have no fear ... this "treaty" is not more than some note of understanding. They state in what future possible ideas they would like to involve efforts into. I know someone who contacted the Commissioner officially to get some real information about facts ... never got any answer, though ... typical European Union ... a probe without value. :)
     
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    Thats good to hear ,,,
     
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    What really frustrates me is that a genuine husband been living in the UK for 13yrs with his english wife and kids, he's american, was refused immigration because he's got cancer and sent this huge bill for it and escorted out the country! The courts agreed with his case to stay but UKBA fought to get it overruled as he's a burden to the UK.

    Firstly, why are we protecting all these bloody terrorists and let those scum into our countries and not kick them out! And secondly all the illegal twats from the fake marriage intentions when the women right to the UKBA that they have withdrawn sponsorship or fear for themselves, they dont chase those real criminal assholes down.

    Something is seriously screwed up. I guess the working class folk always get screwed over because we try to abide by the rules and follow procedures and then people like this sick man get kicked out and separated from his family when he needs them the most while recovering from cancer. And the other scum roam the streets happily using all the services they want and staying under the radar.
     
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    marilyna Chocolate Connoisseur

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    I saw this in the paper this week, and it really upset me.
     
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    hi sarah we haven't forgotten about you we really hope you are doing well. what have you been doing since?
     
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    This is one of those threads where you so wish you knew more. What the outcome was, did @SarahJaney marry him, or confront him or run for the hills. Five years later where is she now? She didn’t return after finding out her fiancé was cheating just a few days before their planned wedding. A reminder that a healthy curiosity and willingness to dig a little can reveal all kinds of things.
     

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